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<blockquote data-quote="Charles A" data-source="post: 152458" data-attributes="member: 231"><p>On why the 308win, and Sniper school.</p><p></p><p>The 308 is used because it is the standard NATO cartridge, its in the system, its accurate enough, shoots far enough, has mild recoil and muzzle blast, and has a long barrel life. That last point is something to think about, for while it me not be a big deal to rebarrel your 6.5/284 every 1,000 rounds, doing that with an entire sections rifles, is unrealistic, hugely expensive, not to mention that fact of having all those sniper rifles out of use for 8 weeks at a time, getting rebarreled back at Remington Arms. Snipers don't <em>have</em> to have a rifle that will shoot 4in groups at 1,000 yds. He needs one that will put a hole into someones chest out to 1K. For that the 308win works just fine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The Army Sniper school at Ft Benning GA, is 5 weeks long. The Marine's Scout/Sniper school is 12 weeks long. All branch BS aside, I have not seen a difference in the performance of the snipers between the two. The difference has more to do with how each branch employes them. The Marines do have the regular Army beat in that regard in my opinion. The Marine school has more "extra" stuff that may or may not be applicable to the task of teaching sniping. The Army course is focused more on the essentials of sniping- shooting, stalking, range estimation, and observation/intel gathering. Either way they both acomplish the same thing, teaching how to kill people at long range, and weeding out those who shouldnt be there.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A sniper has more responsibilities then just shooting, though that is the main tasking. He doesn't need to know what FPS his round is shooting, the BC, or energy levels at 500yds, though he should. He doesn't need to know who makes the floorplate on the rifles, or the rate of twist, though he should. He doesn't need to know what percentage of light his scope transfers, or what the rings are made out of, though he should. What he does need to know is how to press the trigger without disturbing the sight picture, that his rifle will be zeroed after jumping from 1,500 feet, how to make a wind call good enough to get a hit, and whether or not he has the mental capacity to kill another human without out being provoked. Because you see, while we love rifles, and the minute details with them, it really has very little to do with killing. And I think this is where ya'll are missing it- it's not about fun, its about killing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Charles A, post: 152458, member: 231"] On why the 308win, and Sniper school. The 308 is used because it is the standard NATO cartridge, its in the system, its accurate enough, shoots far enough, has mild recoil and muzzle blast, and has a long barrel life. That last point is something to think about, for while it me not be a big deal to rebarrel your 6.5/284 every 1,000 rounds, doing that with an entire sections rifles, is unrealistic, hugely expensive, not to mention that fact of having all those sniper rifles out of use for 8 weeks at a time, getting rebarreled back at Remington Arms. Snipers don't [i]have[/i] to have a rifle that will shoot 4in groups at 1,000 yds. He needs one that will put a hole into someones chest out to 1K. For that the 308win works just fine. The Army Sniper school at Ft Benning GA, is 5 weeks long. The Marine's Scout/Sniper school is 12 weeks long. All branch BS aside, I have not seen a difference in the performance of the snipers between the two. The difference has more to do with how each branch employes them. The Marines do have the regular Army beat in that regard in my opinion. The Marine school has more "extra" stuff that may or may not be applicable to the task of teaching sniping. The Army course is focused more on the essentials of sniping- shooting, stalking, range estimation, and observation/intel gathering. Either way they both acomplish the same thing, teaching how to kill people at long range, and weeding out those who shouldnt be there. A sniper has more responsibilities then just shooting, though that is the main tasking. He doesn't need to know what FPS his round is shooting, the BC, or energy levels at 500yds, though he should. He doesn't need to know who makes the floorplate on the rifles, or the rate of twist, though he should. He doesn't need to know what percentage of light his scope transfers, or what the rings are made out of, though he should. What he does need to know is how to press the trigger without disturbing the sight picture, that his rifle will be zeroed after jumping from 1,500 feet, how to make a wind call good enough to get a hit, and whether or not he has the mental capacity to kill another human without out being provoked. Because you see, while we love rifles, and the minute details with them, it really has very little to do with killing. And I think this is where ya'll are missing it- it's not about fun, its about killing. [/QUOTE]
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