Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
Articles
Latest reviews
Author list
Classifieds
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment
Gunsmithing
Trueing a 700 action cost?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="J E Custom" data-source="post: 1166925" data-attributes="member: 2736"><p>Another good question.</p><p></p><p>I have seen "Trued actions" That were not touched and the owner paid for it. But the reason I was looking at it was that it wouldn't shoot and I found other things that were not done that should have been. You have to trust the smith to do what you want. Bolt face work, bolt lug and a precision ground recoil lug are signs that some attempt to do a proper job have been made.</p><p></p><p>Many times you can re barrel a rifle without truing the action and get away with it. But it's the time that you don't that hurts.</p><p></p><p>Truing an action is only one part of a custom rebuild, There are many other things that have to be done right in order to end up with a accurate rifle Consistently.</p><p></p><p>Blue printing is an attempt to align everything with the bore. This assures that if a concentric chamber is done the rifle should shoot well with proper loading and skill.</p><p></p><p>Every misalignment or less than the best workmanship adds to inaccuracy in my opinion and if enough of these "Minor" problems exist, poor accuracy is very possible. A long time ago I bough a </p><p>factory rifle that shot very well (1/2 MOA) and was very happy with it so many years later I decided to set the shoulder back and freshen the chamber. After disassembly, I started the total dimensioning of all components and was astounded at the lack of precision. before I started I re assembled all components to see why it shot so well. first I found that the recoil lug was .0025</p><p>out of flat/true. the receiver face needed .003+ removed to be square. the bolt face and bolt recoil lugs were also out of square. they all seemed to cancel out any error and came close when assembled. the chamber was also not concentric to the bore and needed a full thread to clean up.</p><p></p><p>After truing everything up and reassembling it actually shot better buy almost a 1/4 MOA so my work was not in vain. </p><p></p><p>Sometimes if things are not perfect they will/can cancel out discrepancies but when these errors combine, a poor preforming rifle can be the end effect.</p><p></p><p>I will not do a rebuild without Blue printing the action because to the inconsistencies in the final</p><p>product. Again it is not the only thing that needs to be done correctly, It is just one (A very important one in my opinion) I am not willing to risk getting away with something when it is easier </p><p>to do it right the first time.</p><p></p><p>The cost of blue printing will vary gunsmith to gunsmith But knowing that he will do this work and do it correctly is more important because unfortunately, most will not be able to verify that the work is done unless the rifle shoots great. </p><p></p><p>My definition of great is = 1/2 MOA is good, 1/4 MOA is great, 1/10th MOA is outstanding.</p><p></p><p>Just my opinion</p><p></p><p>J E CUSTOM</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="J E Custom, post: 1166925, member: 2736"] Another good question. I have seen "Trued actions" That were not touched and the owner paid for it. But the reason I was looking at it was that it wouldn't shoot and I found other things that were not done that should have been. You have to trust the smith to do what you want. Bolt face work, bolt lug and a precision ground recoil lug are signs that some attempt to do a proper job have been made. Many times you can re barrel a rifle without truing the action and get away with it. But it's the time that you don't that hurts. Truing an action is only one part of a custom rebuild, There are many other things that have to be done right in order to end up with a accurate rifle Consistently. Blue printing is an attempt to align everything with the bore. This assures that if a concentric chamber is done the rifle should shoot well with proper loading and skill. Every misalignment or less than the best workmanship adds to inaccuracy in my opinion and if enough of these "Minor" problems exist, poor accuracy is very possible. A long time ago I bough a factory rifle that shot very well (1/2 MOA) and was very happy with it so many years later I decided to set the shoulder back and freshen the chamber. After disassembly, I started the total dimensioning of all components and was astounded at the lack of precision. before I started I re assembled all components to see why it shot so well. first I found that the recoil lug was .0025 out of flat/true. the receiver face needed .003+ removed to be square. the bolt face and bolt recoil lugs were also out of square. they all seemed to cancel out any error and came close when assembled. the chamber was also not concentric to the bore and needed a full thread to clean up. After truing everything up and reassembling it actually shot better buy almost a 1/4 MOA so my work was not in vain. Sometimes if things are not perfect they will/can cancel out discrepancies but when these errors combine, a poor preforming rifle can be the end effect. I will not do a rebuild without Blue printing the action because to the inconsistencies in the final product. Again it is not the only thing that needs to be done correctly, It is just one (A very important one in my opinion) I am not willing to risk getting away with something when it is easier to do it right the first time. The cost of blue printing will vary gunsmith to gunsmith But knowing that he will do this work and do it correctly is more important because unfortunately, most will not be able to verify that the work is done unless the rifle shoots great. My definition of great is = 1/2 MOA is good, 1/4 MOA is great, 1/10th MOA is outstanding. Just my opinion J E CUSTOM [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Rifles, Reloading, Optics, Equipment
Gunsmithing
Trueing a 700 action cost?
Top