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<blockquote data-quote="Hand Skills" data-source="post: 1483736" data-attributes="member: 103303"><p>You said it, [USER=30671]@HARPERC[/USER]</p><p></p><p>Even if the bear spray and handgun were to trade places in this story, there is no guarantee of a different outcome. Plenty of examples people carrying bear spray AND a gun getting bested by Ursidae. It's easy to say things would have worked out differently if he was wearing the gun, but one can't be certain. It's not only insensitive, but unrealistic to believe 'wearing a gun' is the takeaway here. This is obvious to anyone who has seen how fast bears can happen.</p><p></p><p>Thanks for the link [USER=86709]@wyosteve[/USER] it's interesting to fill in the details.</p><p></p><p>It's somewhat comforting the speed and efficiency with which 'officials' deal with bears guilty of human attacks. It's nice to read that the guide didn't do anything 'overtly wrong'. According to the article, he was prepared with bearspray, he way able to deploy the bear spray, and to paraphrase 'maybe if he used the bear spray earlier it would have helped more'?</p><p></p><p>Clearly something went wrong here.</p><p></p><p>The problem I see with bear spray is, in most cases it cannot be used to prevent an attack. By my definition, if an angry bear is close enough to get the mist, they have already attacked! </p><p></p><p>Still, I agree with the statement 'this story does not prove bearspray ineffective'. Used against a predatory black bear, statistics suggest there is a pretty good chance the subject of the attack will live. In the case of a territorial grizzly (like this one), the result here is tragic but not unprecedented.</p><p></p><p>My car has airbags, but it doesn't make driving on the freeway risk free. Skill of the driver is a big factor, but even the best driver can get blindsided. I look at bear protection much the same way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hand Skills, post: 1483736, member: 103303"] You said it, [USER=30671]@HARPERC[/USER] Even if the bear spray and handgun were to trade places in this story, there is no guarantee of a different outcome. Plenty of examples people carrying bear spray AND a gun getting bested by Ursidae. It's easy to say things would have worked out differently if he was wearing the gun, but one can't be certain. It's not only insensitive, but unrealistic to believe 'wearing a gun' is the takeaway here. This is obvious to anyone who has seen how fast bears can happen. Thanks for the link [USER=86709]@wyosteve[/USER] it's interesting to fill in the details. It's somewhat comforting the speed and efficiency with which 'officials' deal with bears guilty of human attacks. It's nice to read that the guide didn't do anything 'overtly wrong'. According to the article, he was prepared with bearspray, he way able to deploy the bear spray, and to paraphrase 'maybe if he used the bear spray earlier it would have helped more'? Clearly something went wrong here. The problem I see with bear spray is, in most cases it cannot be used to prevent an attack. By my definition, if an angry bear is close enough to get the mist, they have already attacked! Still, I agree with the statement 'this story does not prove bearspray ineffective'. Used against a predatory black bear, statistics suggest there is a pretty good chance the subject of the attack will live. In the case of a territorial grizzly (like this one), the result here is tragic but not unprecedented. My car has airbags, but it doesn't make driving on the freeway risk free. Skill of the driver is a big factor, but even the best driver can get blindsided. I look at bear protection much the same way. [/QUOTE]
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