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Traditional mushroom or shedding petals
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<blockquote data-quote="fordy" data-source="post: 2994965" data-attributes="member: 120504"><p>Gday.7mm </p><p></p><p></p><p>so much has been learned on what actually is occurring not what is being assumed & brands are evolving the more that is found out ( some brands ) </p><p></p><p>I'm lucky to share ideas with a group of like minded individuals & still learning & tweaking pills along the way so in no way is this final of the only way forward as I still believe companies can improve & are </p><p></p><p>So far what's been observed ( not just killed ) over critter numbers of mine that are well into the 5 figures mark on the shedding petal varieties ( I think 25 years I've worked on with these shedding pill varieties like gpa, Travis , raptor, laser , apex ,hammer etc ) & are the better killers </p><p>As long as they stick to the part that has been bought up & that's a flat meplat not a rounded then once you break those down you can segregate them again into a couple of other categories & the best comparison is the raptor & laser same company but as the shed petals are different the way they act in the critter & simplified one cuts the other crushes & the cutting is not often seen in projectiles & the alloy has a play in this but not just that alloy well balanced & pop is other parts that come in plus a bit more </p><p>Now a mushroom mono can still get that flat meplat & when it does watch the killing improve on the mushroom killing ability & it shows up in sweet spots on killing ability & the best without a doubt is our Aussie company OEP & if you could stick to the 2500 impact it's got no peers in the mushroom world ( well not that I've found yet & I've tested a lot of mushroom monos ) </p><p></p><p>Next part is the ones to steer clear of or if you do use is the ones you hear that shed petals once a certain velocity is reached </p><p>So by all means one can use them ( good if you stay below that velocity impacts where all petals remain intact )!just be aware that once shedding starts @ that velocity you get usually 1 or 2 to break off first & others retained which does in some cases act like a round nose solid or angled meplat & turns /tumbles happen which when this does performance drops off </p><p>If the lot of the petals break off the meplat is fairly round to way rounded & once again the performance varies & the petals usually don't track with the shank as that's another part of a shedding that's important to watch </p><p></p><p>I've got a few pictures but don't know what to post & im limited to ten pictures anyway so really a waste of time imo & until you start breaking those down & putting in to velocity brackets then add the resistance difference these were impacted @ you are only going to get a snippet of what will give you the most consistent pill for hunting scenarios that play out in the field & that takes numbers to compile that data so </p><p></p><p>If you are happy to just kill so many good brands do that but only a couple kill extremely well & cover a lot of bases </p><p>& the later is what I concentrate on & then your entering into different alloys , different tip systems /behaviour etc </p><p>& a way deeper discussion is needed </p><p></p><p>For now </p><p></p><p>Look @ good working velocity windows & the bases that pill can cover ( triangle ) </p><p>Stick within those parameters & your on your way to having a good mono load </p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fordy, post: 2994965, member: 120504"] Gday.7mm so much has been learned on what actually is occurring not what is being assumed & brands are evolving the more that is found out ( some brands ) I’m lucky to share ideas with a group of like minded individuals & still learning & tweaking pills along the way so in no way is this final of the only way forward as I still believe companies can improve & are So far what’s been observed ( not just killed ) over critter numbers of mine that are well into the 5 figures mark on the shedding petal varieties ( I think 25 years I’ve worked on with these shedding pill varieties like gpa, Travis , raptor, laser , apex ,hammer etc ) & are the better killers As long as they stick to the part that has been bought up & that’s a flat meplat not a rounded then once you break those down you can segregate them again into a couple of other categories & the best comparison is the raptor & laser same company but as the shed petals are different the way they act in the critter & simplified one cuts the other crushes & the cutting is not often seen in projectiles & the alloy has a play in this but not just that alloy well balanced & pop is other parts that come in plus a bit more Now a mushroom mono can still get that flat meplat & when it does watch the killing improve on the mushroom killing ability & it shows up in sweet spots on killing ability & the best without a doubt is our Aussie company OEP & if you could stick to the 2500 impact it’s got no peers in the mushroom world ( well not that I’ve found yet & I’ve tested a lot of mushroom monos ) Next part is the ones to steer clear of or if you do use is the ones you hear that shed petals once a certain velocity is reached So by all means one can use them ( good if you stay below that velocity impacts where all petals remain intact )!just be aware that once shedding starts @ that velocity you get usually 1 or 2 to break off first & others retained which does in some cases act like a round nose solid or angled meplat & turns /tumbles happen which when this does performance drops off If the lot of the petals break off the meplat is fairly round to way rounded & once again the performance varies & the petals usually don’t track with the shank as that’s another part of a shedding that’s important to watch I’ve got a few pictures but don’t know what to post & im limited to ten pictures anyway so really a waste of time imo & until you start breaking those down & putting in to velocity brackets then add the resistance difference these were impacted @ you are only going to get a snippet of what will give you the most consistent pill for hunting scenarios that play out in the field & that takes numbers to compile that data so If you are happy to just kill so many good brands do that but only a couple kill extremely well & cover a lot of bases & the later is what I concentrate on & then your entering into different alloys , different tip systems /behaviour etc & a way deeper discussion is needed For now Look @ good working velocity windows & the bases that pill can cover ( triangle ) Stick within those parameters & your on your way to having a good mono load Cheers [/QUOTE]
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