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<blockquote data-quote="SteelBanger" data-source="post: 2446629" data-attributes="member: 112192"><p>Unfortunately I just sold my last Gen 1 a couple weeks ago so I couldn't do a side by side with that model, but I think the Gen 2 is a small step above the Gen 1 so you can factor that into what I have below. I looked through both a 3-15 gen 2 and the Toric (both at 15x) this morning. Overcast conditions as we're about to get a bunch of snow dumped on us, and only able to look at some rooftops about 150y away … so, not the best test for comparison purposes.</p><p></p><p>I'll start by saying that overall I've always been super satisfied with the Gen 2, it's the most expensive scope(s) I've been willing to buy up until getting this Toric and at its price point I think it's a hard scope to beat. Is the Toric worth an extra $500? My initial impression says probably, but time will tell once I've been able to shoot it but I can definitely say it's an upgrade over the Gen 2 and has a LOT of great features for its price point.</p><p></p><p>Compared to the Gen 2 the Toric is definitely a step above. Both of them have great clarity to my eyes with a slight edge to the Toric, but the Toric clarity goes all the way to edges whereas the Gen 2 clarity tapers off as you get out to the edges. The Toric also has less CA though it's not perfect. Toric seems to have a more forgiving eye box as well, though I've never complained about that on the Gen 2. I love the locking turrets on the Toric and it's easy to remove the cap to pull the turret off to change its position compared to the 3 tiny set screws on the Gen 2 … I accidentally dropped one of those set screws once at the range and spent a long time looking through the gravel to find it. The Gen 2 turrets are a little mushier than the Toric, with a softer click. The Toric turrets have very positive and audible clicks. The mag ring on the Toric is quite a bit smoother, all Vortex mag rings have always seemed super stiff to me but a throw lever helps that a lot. Same with the illumination knob, the Gen 2 knob is super stiff whereas the Toric knob feels just like their turrets, nice positive and audible clicks through the illumination settings. I haven't messed with the zero stop on the Toric yet but it doesn't seem any more difficult than the Gen 2.</p><p></p><p>So that's just a quick first look and comparison. Like I said I've always enjoyed the Gen 2's and don't have any complaints about them, if you only had $800 (occasional sale price) to spend I'd recommend it all day. But I am very impressed with the Toric so far and definitely consider it an upgrade over the Gen 2. The only downside I can think of is its weight, but it's not out of line with scopes of equal quality and features. Looking forward to getting it out to the range.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SteelBanger, post: 2446629, member: 112192"] Unfortunately I just sold my last Gen 1 a couple weeks ago so I couldn't do a side by side with that model, but I think the Gen 2 is a small step above the Gen 1 so you can factor that into what I have below. I looked through both a 3-15 gen 2 and the Toric (both at 15x) this morning. Overcast conditions as we're about to get a bunch of snow dumped on us, and only able to look at some rooftops about 150y away … so, not the best test for comparison purposes. I'll start by saying that overall I've always been super satisfied with the Gen 2, it's the most expensive scope(s) I've been willing to buy up until getting this Toric and at its price point I think it's a hard scope to beat. Is the Toric worth an extra $500? My initial impression says probably, but time will tell once I've been able to shoot it but I can definitely say it's an upgrade over the Gen 2 and has a LOT of great features for its price point. Compared to the Gen 2 the Toric is definitely a step above. Both of them have great clarity to my eyes with a slight edge to the Toric, but the Toric clarity goes all the way to edges whereas the Gen 2 clarity tapers off as you get out to the edges. The Toric also has less CA though it's not perfect. Toric seems to have a more forgiving eye box as well, though I've never complained about that on the Gen 2. I love the locking turrets on the Toric and it's easy to remove the cap to pull the turret off to change its position compared to the 3 tiny set screws on the Gen 2 … I accidentally dropped one of those set screws once at the range and spent a long time looking through the gravel to find it. The Gen 2 turrets are a little mushier than the Toric, with a softer click. The Toric turrets have very positive and audible clicks. The mag ring on the Toric is quite a bit smoother, all Vortex mag rings have always seemed super stiff to me but a throw lever helps that a lot. Same with the illumination knob, the Gen 2 knob is super stiff whereas the Toric knob feels just like their turrets, nice positive and audible clicks through the illumination settings. I haven't messed with the zero stop on the Toric yet but it doesn't seem any more difficult than the Gen 2. So that's just a quick first look and comparison. Like I said I've always enjoyed the Gen 2's and don't have any complaints about them, if you only had $800 (occasional sale price) to spend I'd recommend it all day. But I am very impressed with the Toric so far and definitely consider it an upgrade over the Gen 2. The only downside I can think of is its weight, but it's not out of line with scopes of equal quality and features. Looking forward to getting it out to the range. [/QUOTE]
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