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Top three things to reduce ES and SD
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<blockquote data-quote="MNbogboy" data-source="post: 659175" data-attributes="member: 18849"><p>Lots of good points here..Rscott5028 says it best consistency..consistency..consistency....My minimal equipment puts out some amazingly accurate and consistent ammo(at least for me) if I put the time into it....I weigh every load down to the "kernal" and sometimes I scoop out one kernal out of the pan if I over trickle...I adjust neck tension frequently to maintain consistency and always sort bullets by weight and bearing length and cases by weight & volume...Anything that I can control to reduce ES & SD give me numbers in the single digits and teens most of the time...But sometimes you have to chalk it up to a mistake you make such as leaving one in the chamber too long or a different grip on the rifle........All good numbers take time both on and off the range....</p><p> </p><p>I started hand-loading when I was a teen back in the 60s and am always open to learning new things....</p><p>The straw technique on the the trickler was the latest thing I learned on here about a year ago..(we didn't have the "net" back in the day<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />)......Now with a clear McDonalds straw I can watch the clumps coming before i overcharge!</p><p>When I built my first automatic powder scale back in the early 80s I wish I would have had that "clear" straw back then....That powder scale used a conventional beam scale, 2 gearmotors, two modified tricklers and photoelectric sensors to fill and trickle the pan and stop when the beam blocked light to the sensors...It was large and clumsy and could only produces charges to .1 grain.....It was no faster than doing it by hand but you could start the second charge while you could actually do something else.....The second one I built was similar but used two stepper motors and digital technology ...The ability to vary motor speed made it faster but again clumping at the trickle stage often put you over by a .1 grain.....It was dismantled when I moved a couple of houses (and women) back and never put back together and finally lost amongst the moves.....If I ever build another I will use opto electronics, a little fuzzy logic, and a clear final trickler tube to reduce error of overcharges....</p><p> </p><p>However my need for speed has gone past me like my youthfulness has and I am content with shooting a 1000 rounds a year or so now.....If I shot and loaded like the last guy posted I would have loaded 6 boxes a day 365 days a year for the last 45 years and I still would not have loaded 2 million rounds....</p><p> </p><p>It is possible to have quality and quantity, but for the best quality you must give up some of the quantity.....Take your time and pay the most attention to detail.....</p><p> </p><p>My .02,</p><p>Randy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MNbogboy, post: 659175, member: 18849"] Lots of good points here..Rscott5028 says it best consistency..consistency..consistency....My minimal equipment puts out some amazingly accurate and consistent ammo(at least for me) if I put the time into it....I weigh every load down to the "kernal" and sometimes I scoop out one kernal out of the pan if I over trickle...I adjust neck tension frequently to maintain consistency and always sort bullets by weight and bearing length and cases by weight & volume...Anything that I can control to reduce ES & SD give me numbers in the single digits and teens most of the time...But sometimes you have to chalk it up to a mistake you make such as leaving one in the chamber too long or a different grip on the rifle........All good numbers take time both on and off the range.... I started hand-loading when I was a teen back in the 60s and am always open to learning new things.... The straw technique on the the trickler was the latest thing I learned on here about a year ago..(we didn't have the "net" back in the day:))......Now with a clear McDonalds straw I can watch the clumps coming before i overcharge! When I built my first automatic powder scale back in the early 80s I wish I would have had that "clear" straw back then....That powder scale used a conventional beam scale, 2 gearmotors, two modified tricklers and photoelectric sensors to fill and trickle the pan and stop when the beam blocked light to the sensors...It was large and clumsy and could only produces charges to .1 grain.....It was no faster than doing it by hand but you could start the second charge while you could actually do something else.....The second one I built was similar but used two stepper motors and digital technology ...The ability to vary motor speed made it faster but again clumping at the trickle stage often put you over by a .1 grain.....It was dismantled when I moved a couple of houses (and women) back and never put back together and finally lost amongst the moves.....If I ever build another I will use opto electronics, a little fuzzy logic, and a clear final trickler tube to reduce error of overcharges.... However my need for speed has gone past me like my youthfulness has and I am content with shooting a 1000 rounds a year or so now.....If I shot and loaded like the last guy posted I would have loaded 6 boxes a day 365 days a year for the last 45 years and I still would not have loaded 2 million rounds.... It is possible to have quality and quantity, but for the best quality you must give up some of the quantity.....Take your time and pay the most attention to detail..... My .02, Randy [/QUOTE]
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