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To clean your gun or not to clean your gun-thats my question
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<blockquote data-quote="pcmacd" data-source="post: 1626050" data-attributes="member: 95804"><p>You have not specified rifle or handgun, but let's guess that this is a rifle site.</p><p></p><p>HANDGUNS: I used to shoot with a bunch of old 'bullseye shooters' who used Hercules Bullseye propellant for their 45 ACP loads. That is about a dirty a propellant one can find. They told me they only cleaned the 45 auto when it stopped working, usually around 500 rounds. Again, Bullseye is terrible dirty stuff.</p><p></p><p>RIFLE: Depends. I've a Marlin 60SS with a ~thousand rounds thru it; the barrel, "micro grove" has never been cleaned. It shoots like a house afire.</p><p></p><p>What caliber? What propellant? </p><p></p><p>BULLETS: Moly or not? Some other proprietary coating? Bare gilding metal?</p><p></p><p>How hot is your load?</p><p></p><p>The only answer to your question is that you clean it when accuracy begins to fall off.</p><p></p><p>My Sako 6PPC, hammer forged, CRES barrel? It never seemed to need cleaning (based upon the accuracy criteria, which I will not repeat.) Never. Ever hundert or so rounds I cleaned it, but I don't know why, and always cleaned it after a session.</p><p></p><p>My R700 PSS 308 WIN, with the factory barrel seemed to need cleaning about ever 10 to 15 rounds. Replaced the tube with a quality 1.25" diameter straight aftermarket tube and it was about the same. Rifle now sports a Krieger 5R 10" twist which I have yet to fire. Since I shoot only moly bullets, I expect it will hunderts of rounds w/o cleaning, but I will always clean it when I get home.</p><p></p><p>My factory R700 Varminter in 22-250? Want to talk about a piece of s**t? When I took the trigger guard off it went SPRONG! I kid you not, I took 1/2 cubic inch of wood out the stock to make it fit right. What a piece of s**t. Swore off Remingtons after that. I mean, seriously? The person screwing it all down could not feel it was wrong (I could tell just unscrewing*?) And the fool sent it out into the world regardless? A serious quality problem there, it seems. Around year 2000.</p><p></p><p>That rifle, 22-250? ONE ROUND, take ONE FREAKING HOUR to get the copper out. Fire lapping din't help. I put it in the back of the safe with a big serving of disgust.</p><p></p><p>It now sports a Krieger in 22-250 AI with a Grunning blueprinted action, and again, I have not yet fired it. I will likely only clean it when I get it home after each range session after itbe broken in.</p><p></p><p>So, reiterating, "The only answer to your question is that you clean it when accuracy begins to fall off."</p><p></p><p>~~~~~</p><p>*Have you ever unscrewed?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pcmacd, post: 1626050, member: 95804"] You have not specified rifle or handgun, but let's guess that this is a rifle site. HANDGUNS: I used to shoot with a bunch of old 'bullseye shooters' who used Hercules Bullseye propellant for their 45 ACP loads. That is about a dirty a propellant one can find. They told me they only cleaned the 45 auto when it stopped working, usually around 500 rounds. Again, Bullseye is terrible dirty stuff. RIFLE: Depends. I've a Marlin 60SS with a ~thousand rounds thru it; the barrel, "micro grove" has never been cleaned. It shoots like a house afire. What caliber? What propellant? BULLETS: Moly or not? Some other proprietary coating? Bare gilding metal? How hot is your load? The only answer to your question is that you clean it when accuracy begins to fall off. My Sako 6PPC, hammer forged, CRES barrel? It never seemed to need cleaning (based upon the accuracy criteria, which I will not repeat.) Never. Ever hundert or so rounds I cleaned it, but I don't know why, and always cleaned it after a session. My R700 PSS 308 WIN, with the factory barrel seemed to need cleaning about ever 10 to 15 rounds. Replaced the tube with a quality 1.25" diameter straight aftermarket tube and it was about the same. Rifle now sports a Krieger 5R 10" twist which I have yet to fire. Since I shoot only moly bullets, I expect it will hunderts of rounds w/o cleaning, but I will always clean it when I get home. My factory R700 Varminter in 22-250? Want to talk about a piece of s**t? When I took the trigger guard off it went SPRONG! I kid you not, I took 1/2 cubic inch of wood out the stock to make it fit right. What a piece of s**t. Swore off Remingtons after that. I mean, seriously? The person screwing it all down could not feel it was wrong (I could tell just unscrewing*?) And the fool sent it out into the world regardless? A serious quality problem there, it seems. Around year 2000. That rifle, 22-250? ONE ROUND, take ONE FREAKING HOUR to get the copper out. Fire lapping din't help. I put it in the back of the safe with a big serving of disgust. It now sports a Krieger in 22-250 AI with a Grunning blueprinted action, and again, I have not yet fired it. I will likely only clean it when I get it home after each range session after itbe broken in. So, reiterating, "The only answer to your question is that you clean it when accuracy begins to fall off." ~~~~~ *Have you ever unscrewed? [/QUOTE]
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