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<blockquote data-quote="liltank" data-source="post: 335241" data-attributes="member: 13275"><p>I read that and laughed. Glad I can keep the mind juices flowing!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>Okay, so I am getting a lot of 30-30 which was not one of my options, but the other popular vote has been the 308 in a round nose of some type and the old reliable 45-70. So would sticking with modern bullets be the ticket for 45-70 or should one consider a molded lead bullet in a round nose of pointed flat base. The reason I ask is because this caliber in a molded bullet possibly using the prescribed 70grains of black (hence the 70) powder sounds like fun. </p><p></p><p>I just looked in my Lyman reloading manual. You can push a lead alloy 475grn bullet to 1800fps with a BC of .477. You can also push a 535 grain 1760 fps using Varget. These speeds are comparable to modern bullets. I'm thinking this maybe the cheaper, but better option to a jacketed bullet through brush.</p><p></p><p>I just ran some JBM and I am thinking that a straight lead is the way to go. Look at these numbers.</p><p></p><p>500grn Rnd Nose Jacket bullet<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />Muzzle velocity 1767) 100yrds= 1523.6 fps and 2576.6 ft.lbs. BC .287</p><p></p><p>475grn Lead Semi rnd nose Bullet<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />Muzzle velocity 1800) 100yrds= 1651.9 fps and 2877.4 ft.lbs. BC .477</p><p>535grn Lead Semi rnd nose Bullet<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />Muzzle velocity 1767) 100yrds= 1588.3 fps and 2996.3 ft.lbs. BC .402</p><p></p><p>So I am thinking because you do not gain anything with velocity or energy with a modern jacketed bullet, a cast bullet may be the route to go in this application. I just wanted to crunch numbers with JBM. The BC's and weights of cast alloys and modern bullet come from my Lyman manual. </p><p></p><p>Tank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="liltank, post: 335241, member: 13275"] I read that and laughed. Glad I can keep the mind juices flowing!;) Okay, so I am getting a lot of 30-30 which was not one of my options, but the other popular vote has been the 308 in a round nose of some type and the old reliable 45-70. So would sticking with modern bullets be the ticket for 45-70 or should one consider a molded lead bullet in a round nose of pointed flat base. The reason I ask is because this caliber in a molded bullet possibly using the prescribed 70grains of black (hence the 70) powder sounds like fun. I just looked in my Lyman reloading manual. You can push a lead alloy 475grn bullet to 1800fps with a BC of .477. You can also push a 535 grain 1760 fps using Varget. These speeds are comparable to modern bullets. I'm thinking this maybe the cheaper, but better option to a jacketed bullet through brush. I just ran some JBM and I am thinking that a straight lead is the way to go. Look at these numbers. 500grn Rnd Nose Jacket bullet:(Muzzle velocity 1767) 100yrds= 1523.6 fps and 2576.6 ft.lbs. BC .287 475grn Lead Semi rnd nose Bullet:(Muzzle velocity 1800) 100yrds= 1651.9 fps and 2877.4 ft.lbs. BC .477 535grn Lead Semi rnd nose Bullet:(Muzzle velocity 1767) 100yrds= 1588.3 fps and 2996.3 ft.lbs. BC .402 So I am thinking because you do not gain anything with velocity or energy with a modern jacketed bullet, a cast bullet may be the route to go in this application. I just wanted to crunch numbers with JBM. The BC's and weights of cast alloys and modern bullet come from my Lyman manual. Tank [/QUOTE]
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