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<blockquote data-quote="Double Naught Spy" data-source="post: 1277116" data-attributes="member: 55410"><p>Well, here is an example of the clarity of the MKIII</p><p></p><p>[ame]https://youtu.be/ilZVfot79f4[/ame]<u><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZVfot79f4&t=3s" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZVfot79f4&t=3s</a></u></p><p></p><p>All the companies have scopes with some good or excellent features and EVERY SINGLE MODEL HAS SOME BONEHEADED FEATURES. I think the most difficult to set up initially is the Pulsar Apex (haven't seen the Trail, yet) as it has a lot of neat features you can customize. However, once setup, it is one of the easiest to run in the field for features that you may need quickly like NUCing and ZOOM. You can do things like brighten the reticle, which is cool, but you have to navigate a complicated menu system to do so. Here, 'complicated' is relative. Until the "Trail" comes out, I think the Apex is the best value for $ going today. These are only 384 resolution scopes, but for hogs and coyotes, folks have been having a lot of success with them. The new Trail scope will be a 640 resolution scope and will have onboard recording. The Trail may not be the top scope of 2017, but it may be the best value general utility thermal hunting scope of 2017 if it works as designed.</p><p></p><p>I think Armasights make some good, general purpose scopes. They felt the need to follow ATN and include a bunch of needless color palates that are virtually never used except as a novelty. Under conditions of humidity and such, the scope may need to have adjustments made to have a decent image. New users tend to get lost with the buttons, but they are quickly learned. The new firmware takes some getting used to learning such that the user can better run the scope for a better image.</p><p></p><p>IR Defense makes some of the easiest scopes to use that usually require the least amount of upkeep in the field such as with NUCing and with adjusting the image. The menu system is super easy to learn to use, but can be a nightmare to switch between control screens to access features (NUC is on one and Zoom is on another) under pressure. NUCing is fully manual meaning the user much cover the lens AND initiate the process. On the good side, it seems to need it less often than the Armasights or Pulsars.</p><p></p><p>When is comes to image quality between Armasight and IR Defense scopes, the IR Hunter MKIII 60mm currently has the best image going, but also has 4.5x magnification. Comparing the MKII 2.5x to the Armasight Zeus (not Pro) 3x, what I find is that the IR Hunter tends to have a better overall image, but less detail on the thermal target than with the Armasight. The Armasight will have the target pop out more visually, but you may lose track of foliage and stuff in the background. This leads folks to like the IR Hunter images better. Both images have advantages and shortcomings. It just sort of depends on what you want.</p><p></p><p>And that is what a lot of this comes down to - user preference and of course, user needs. None of the scopes are perfect, regardless of what you pay, LOL.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Double Naught Spy, post: 1277116, member: 55410"] Well, here is an example of the clarity of the MKIII [ame]https://youtu.be/ilZVfot79f4[/ame][U][URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZVfot79f4&t=3s"][/URL][/U] All the companies have scopes with some good or excellent features and EVERY SINGLE MODEL HAS SOME BONEHEADED FEATURES. I think the most difficult to set up initially is the Pulsar Apex (haven't seen the Trail, yet) as it has a lot of neat features you can customize. However, once setup, it is one of the easiest to run in the field for features that you may need quickly like NUCing and ZOOM. You can do things like brighten the reticle, which is cool, but you have to navigate a complicated menu system to do so. Here, 'complicated' is relative. Until the "Trail" comes out, I think the Apex is the best value for $ going today. These are only 384 resolution scopes, but for hogs and coyotes, folks have been having a lot of success with them. The new Trail scope will be a 640 resolution scope and will have onboard recording. The Trail may not be the top scope of 2017, but it may be the best value general utility thermal hunting scope of 2017 if it works as designed. I think Armasights make some good, general purpose scopes. They felt the need to follow ATN and include a bunch of needless color palates that are virtually never used except as a novelty. Under conditions of humidity and such, the scope may need to have adjustments made to have a decent image. New users tend to get lost with the buttons, but they are quickly learned. The new firmware takes some getting used to learning such that the user can better run the scope for a better image. IR Defense makes some of the easiest scopes to use that usually require the least amount of upkeep in the field such as with NUCing and with adjusting the image. The menu system is super easy to learn to use, but can be a nightmare to switch between control screens to access features (NUC is on one and Zoom is on another) under pressure. NUCing is fully manual meaning the user much cover the lens AND initiate the process. On the good side, it seems to need it less often than the Armasights or Pulsars. When is comes to image quality between Armasight and IR Defense scopes, the IR Hunter MKIII 60mm currently has the best image going, but also has 4.5x magnification. Comparing the MKII 2.5x to the Armasight Zeus (not Pro) 3x, what I find is that the IR Hunter tends to have a better overall image, but less detail on the thermal target than with the Armasight. The Armasight will have the target pop out more visually, but you may lose track of foliage and stuff in the background. This leads folks to like the IR Hunter images better. Both images have advantages and shortcomings. It just sort of depends on what you want. And that is what a lot of this comes down to - user preference and of course, user needs. None of the scopes are perfect, regardless of what you pay, LOL. [/QUOTE]
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