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<blockquote data-quote="GuroChris" data-source="post: 1868903" data-attributes="member: 113578"><p>OK, I'm sure this is going to stir the pot a bit, but.....</p><p></p><p>Can someone define for me exactly what a "flyer" is and why it shouldn't count when evaluating the precision of a particular rifle and load.</p><p></p><p>I've always thought that if you have a " called" shot outside the group, that really isn't a flyer because you know what happened to cause the outlier. If you have an unexpected outlier from the group and can't explain why, then how come this isn't included in the evaluation? After all, if you didn't call it then as far as you know you weren't the cause. That just leaves the ammo and rifle to blame. But if you hand loaded the ammo the same as the rest or its from the same lot in the case of factory loads, then shouldn't that count as well. </p><p></p><p>I bring this up because is see a lot of stuff on the internet where guys say "Look at this group here, except for that one its really good" and they continue on extolling the virtues of the accuracy of the rifle/load combo. If this happens even on a semi regular basis then isn't that shooter/rifle/load combo really just a 1.5MOA set up? </p><p></p><p>Look at my photo. It's 1.24 inches, Buut, if I don't count that one flyer it's .67 "all day long" as they say.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>Tell me what you guys think. I think on an average day I'm a 1.25 MOA shooter. Sure some days are better than others but, isn't that just how life is?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GuroChris, post: 1868903, member: 113578"] OK, I'm sure this is going to stir the pot a bit, but..... Can someone define for me exactly what a "flyer" is and why it shouldn't count when evaluating the precision of a particular rifle and load. I've always thought that if you have a " called" shot outside the group, that really isn't a flyer because you know what happened to cause the outlier. If you have an unexpected outlier from the group and can't explain why, then how come this isn't included in the evaluation? After all, if you didn't call it then as far as you know you weren't the cause. That just leaves the ammo and rifle to blame. But if you hand loaded the ammo the same as the rest or its from the same lot in the case of factory loads, then shouldn't that count as well. I bring this up because is see a lot of stuff on the internet where guys say "Look at this group here, except for that one its really good" and they continue on extolling the virtues of the accuracy of the rifle/load combo. If this happens even on a semi regular basis then isn't that shooter/rifle/load combo really just a 1.5MOA set up? Look at my photo. It's 1.24 inches, Buut, if I don't count that one flyer it's .67 "all day long" as they say.:rolleyes: Tell me what you guys think. I think on an average day I'm a 1.25 MOA shooter. Sure some days are better than others but, isn't that just how life is? [/QUOTE]
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