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The Nosler Hate... I don't get it.
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<blockquote data-quote="Pdvdh" data-source="post: 1221692" data-attributes="member: 4191"><p>Yup: simple, reliable, deadly. I don't have to worry about whether or not a Brenneke slug expands. It's already 73 caliber, and remains 73 caliber until it comes to a stop. One less thing that could fail is eliminated.</p><p></p><p>I'm leaving for a sheep/caribou hunt tomorrow. Grizzly country, and maybe a few black bears. Grizzlies in sheep country have as foul an attitude as bears do anywhere, on average. Some of them grow into the worst bullies in the world.</p><p></p><p>Several years ago I modified my Rem 870 20 gauge Lightweight shotgun by purchasing a Remington 20 1/2" smoothbore barrel, improved cylinder, equipped with iron sights. This shotgun is modified specifically for camp defense - like bear in-your-face defense. If we ever have a caribou or other game animal down in the willows or alders, I'm carrying this shotgun while returning from camp back and forth to the kill site. The magazine has been extended to hold 6 or 7 shells (can't remember), it's got tritium sights for low light use, and it's loaded with 1oz Brenneke Heavy Field Short Magnum slugs. Grizzlies are smaller than brown bears, and the 20 gauge slugs are still ~61 caliber and weigh ~440 grains. I've chronographed them at 1412fps MV, about 20fps faster than advertised. If I want to hunt ptarmigan, I load the magazine of this shotgun with 1oz of #6 lead shot and carry the slugs just in case the ptarmigan hunt turns into something much worse. </p><p></p><p>My brother's been a gunsmith and gun shop owner in Kenai, Alaska for more than 30 years. I benefit from his experiences repairing firearms, and all the Alaska bear tales that get shared in his gun shop. Alaskan's love a good bear story. That also factors into my preference for a FIELD PROVEN pump action shotgun, field proven with the shells that will be used to save my life. Normally an aftermarket magazine spring and follower, because I've had a Remington 870 3" mag fail to load from the magazine in the past due to a weak/old magazine spring that failed to hold the shells in the magazine firmly against the stop under the heavy recoil of 2oz loads of shot. So do test your firearm with the exact shells you intend to save your life with. It sucks to eject a fired shell and then close the pump action on an empty chamber. Trust me on that one.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, the reason for multiple quick rounds on a large brown bear at close range? The first time you see a 10' plus brown bear within 75 yards, it'll likely unnerve you. I'd hunted Alaskan game of all sorts, with both bow and rifle for 22 years before one jumped up from his sleep 60yds away from me in patchy alders. He was strung as tight as a banjo string. I didn't fall to pieces, but it was simply way more than I anticipated. When I came back to camp, I told guys I was with that if you EVER see a 10' plus brown bear up close, you won't have to ask anyone whether or not it's a big bear. Following experiences were never again so nerve rattling for me. But I'll admit the first one was pretty darn intense. Me, all by my lonesome, with a .280 Rem bolt action rifle. Felt like I had a BB gun. Gave me a whole new appreciation for the guide requirement for non-resident brown bear hunters required by Alaska law. I could've used used a guide for a minute or two, and that was after extensive hunting experience from the time I was 13, until that moment, when I was 47yrs old - and wondering if I'd live to see 48.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pdvdh, post: 1221692, member: 4191"] Yup: simple, reliable, deadly. I don't have to worry about whether or not a Brenneke slug expands. It's already 73 caliber, and remains 73 caliber until it comes to a stop. One less thing that could fail is eliminated. I'm leaving for a sheep/caribou hunt tomorrow. Grizzly country, and maybe a few black bears. Grizzlies in sheep country have as foul an attitude as bears do anywhere, on average. Some of them grow into the worst bullies in the world. Several years ago I modified my Rem 870 20 gauge Lightweight shotgun by purchasing a Remington 20 1/2" smoothbore barrel, improved cylinder, equipped with iron sights. This shotgun is modified specifically for camp defense - like bear in-your-face defense. If we ever have a caribou or other game animal down in the willows or alders, I'm carrying this shotgun while returning from camp back and forth to the kill site. The magazine has been extended to hold 6 or 7 shells (can't remember), it's got tritium sights for low light use, and it's loaded with 1oz Brenneke Heavy Field Short Magnum slugs. Grizzlies are smaller than brown bears, and the 20 gauge slugs are still ~61 caliber and weigh ~440 grains. I've chronographed them at 1412fps MV, about 20fps faster than advertised. If I want to hunt ptarmigan, I load the magazine of this shotgun with 1oz of #6 lead shot and carry the slugs just in case the ptarmigan hunt turns into something much worse. My brother's been a gunsmith and gun shop owner in Kenai, Alaska for more than 30 years. I benefit from his experiences repairing firearms, and all the Alaska bear tales that get shared in his gun shop. Alaskan's love a good bear story. That also factors into my preference for a FIELD PROVEN pump action shotgun, field proven with the shells that will be used to save my life. Normally an aftermarket magazine spring and follower, because I've had a Remington 870 3" mag fail to load from the magazine in the past due to a weak/old magazine spring that failed to hold the shells in the magazine firmly against the stop under the heavy recoil of 2oz loads of shot. So do test your firearm with the exact shells you intend to save your life with. It sucks to eject a fired shell and then close the pump action on an empty chamber. Trust me on that one. Lastly, the reason for multiple quick rounds on a large brown bear at close range? The first time you see a 10' plus brown bear within 75 yards, it'll likely unnerve you. I'd hunted Alaskan game of all sorts, with both bow and rifle for 22 years before one jumped up from his sleep 60yds away from me in patchy alders. He was strung as tight as a banjo string. I didn't fall to pieces, but it was simply way more than I anticipated. When I came back to camp, I told guys I was with that if you EVER see a 10' plus brown bear up close, you won't have to ask anyone whether or not it's a big bear. Following experiences were never again so nerve rattling for me. But I'll admit the first one was pretty darn intense. Me, all by my lonesome, with a .280 Rem bolt action rifle. Felt like I had a BB gun. Gave me a whole new appreciation for the guide requirement for non-resident brown bear hunters required by Alaska law. I could've used used a guide for a minute or two, and that was after extensive hunting experience from the time I was 13, until that moment, when I was 47yrs old - and wondering if I'd live to see 48. [/QUOTE]
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