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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 350530" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>Liltank,</p><p> </p><p>Yes, and their first shot will likely be on the money and they WILL have copper fouling from that first shot as well. My recommendations are for those of us on LRH who are long range target shooters, long range varmint hunters and long range big game hunters, not military snipers.</p><p> </p><p>I would agree, if your first shot HAS to be on the money in a life or death situation, it would be best to shoot out of a dry bore but none of us here are ever in that situation.</p><p> </p><p>To get the longest string of accurate shots, you will be better served to shoot a cleaned bore with a thin layer of lube in the bore to prevent fouling.</p><p> </p><p>Another thing to consider is the chamberings that those snipers are shooting in their rifles. VERY low intensity rounds with projos that have relatively small baring surface and in relatively slow test barrels. About as non intense of a situation for bore fouling as you can get.</p><p> </p><p>A 308 with a 175 gr SMK at 2650 fps out of a 1-10 or 1-11 twist barrel is pretty darn mild. There will still be some bore fouling firing first shot from a dry bore but when you compare it to say my 338 AX with a 300 gr SMK loaded to +3000 fps which probablyhas three times the baring surface to the bore you can see my point.</p><p> </p><p>Or even say a 6.5 WSM with a 142 gr SMK loaded to 3100 fps in a 1-8 twist barrel.</p><p> </p><p>Again, Snipers have to play by a different set of rules. We have the luxury of being able to foul out barrels before we have to use them, they often can not. Many of us like to think we are snipers which is kind of silly and comparing the two different types of shooting practices really does not make sense.</p><p> </p><p>After all, everything the military does and teaches about firearm care is gospel!!! LOL</p><p> </p><p>Ask 100 smiths their opinion and likely you will get that many replies. To each their own. I am just offering factual results I have tested and proven by scoping bores after first shot out of a cleaned bore and also checking the amount of fouling after a 10 shot string starting with a dry bore and lubed bore. The difference is certainly measurable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 350530, member: 10"] Liltank, Yes, and their first shot will likely be on the money and they WILL have copper fouling from that first shot as well. My recommendations are for those of us on LRH who are long range target shooters, long range varmint hunters and long range big game hunters, not military snipers. I would agree, if your first shot HAS to be on the money in a life or death situation, it would be best to shoot out of a dry bore but none of us here are ever in that situation. To get the longest string of accurate shots, you will be better served to shoot a cleaned bore with a thin layer of lube in the bore to prevent fouling. Another thing to consider is the chamberings that those snipers are shooting in their rifles. VERY low intensity rounds with projos that have relatively small baring surface and in relatively slow test barrels. About as non intense of a situation for bore fouling as you can get. A 308 with a 175 gr SMK at 2650 fps out of a 1-10 or 1-11 twist barrel is pretty darn mild. There will still be some bore fouling firing first shot from a dry bore but when you compare it to say my 338 AX with a 300 gr SMK loaded to +3000 fps which probablyhas three times the baring surface to the bore you can see my point. Or even say a 6.5 WSM with a 142 gr SMK loaded to 3100 fps in a 1-8 twist barrel. Again, Snipers have to play by a different set of rules. We have the luxury of being able to foul out barrels before we have to use them, they often can not. Many of us like to think we are snipers which is kind of silly and comparing the two different types of shooting practices really does not make sense. After all, everything the military does and teaches about firearm care is gospel!!! LOL Ask 100 smiths their opinion and likely you will get that many replies. To each their own. I am just offering factual results I have tested and proven by scoping bores after first shot out of a cleaned bore and also checking the amount of fouling after a 10 shot string starting with a dry bore and lubed bore. The difference is certainly measurable. [/QUOTE]
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