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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 342803" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>My theory behind the Raptor LRSS is that since we have gotten into this long range or precision shooting, we have had two things that cause problems, barrel flexing and stock flexing. As long as they do this consistantly there is no real problem but as we all know when these two things flex and contact each other you can get serious problems with consistancy especially at long range.</p><p> </p><p>Over the years we have done alot to control this problem. Quality bedding of the receiver helps alot, floating the barrel also helps dramatically with a good match grade stress free barrel.</p><p> </p><p>But we all have found or experienced issues with stocks flexing unpredictably and there has really been no way to get around that other then make the stocks so rigid that they simply flex less, that generally involves either using a solid aluminum stock(UGLY) or inlaying aluminum skeletons inside the stocks which increases weight but does a good job and to date is about the best choice for rigidity and cosmetic results.</p><p> </p><p>My thinking, why not take the barrel and stock and let them work together to make the strongest, most flex resistant system possible. Bed the two in a perfectly stressfree system most of the length from the rear receiver tang to nearly the tip of the forend.</p><p> </p><p>Yes, if significant force is applied to the stock, you will likely see some vertical stringing on target but when shooting off a bipod and rear bag, this should never be a problem in any way, in fact, it should dampen any "bipod bounce" shooting off a hard surface.</p><p> </p><p>Again, just things I think about at night while laying awake.</p><p> </p><p>I have already had some tell me the system will not work when the barrel heats up. My response to that is how hot will the barrel get when big game hunting or even long range varmint hunting. If the barrel gets hot to the point it will cause problems, I will be seeing the rifle owner soon for a new barrel!!! LOL</p><p> </p><p>I have tested these claims of accuracy problems with my heavy V-Block rifles which are bedding in a similiar manner and have never EVER had a problem at all. So why not just use that system which uses an aluminum bedding V-Block that the barrel sits in and is bolted through holding it down into the stock, mostly because of the size requirements needed for inletting the V-Block which eliminates the possibility to use the design in a sporter weight rifle.</p><p> </p><p>Plus, I see no real advantage for a big game rifle. The forward mounting bolt will be pillar bedded, as will the two receiver mounting bolt positions for a totally stress free bedding.</p><p> </p><p>The Aluminum bedding block can have some "Heat Sink" properties which can help a barrel cool faster but again, on a big game rifle, this will not have any advantage. Another issue is cost, my double recoil lug system will be much less expensive when we get into production then a V-Block would be. Also, the Double Recoil Lug design has twice the recoil lug contact area to the stock. Not only twice the contact area but 50% of that contact area will be ahead on the forend where the stock is solid filled completely behind it. No more relying on the stock at the traditional recoil lug position which is just ahead of the relatively weak magazine walls. </p><p> </p><p>With the larger chamberings, mag wall bowing can be a big problem, that should be eliminated with my Double Recoil Lug barrel design.</p><p> </p><p>Much to test and prove but I am 100% confident it will perform as designed. You all will be the first to know!!!</p><p> </p><p>Again, pictures will be coming soon.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 342803, member: 10"] My theory behind the Raptor LRSS is that since we have gotten into this long range or precision shooting, we have had two things that cause problems, barrel flexing and stock flexing. As long as they do this consistantly there is no real problem but as we all know when these two things flex and contact each other you can get serious problems with consistancy especially at long range. Over the years we have done alot to control this problem. Quality bedding of the receiver helps alot, floating the barrel also helps dramatically with a good match grade stress free barrel. But we all have found or experienced issues with stocks flexing unpredictably and there has really been no way to get around that other then make the stocks so rigid that they simply flex less, that generally involves either using a solid aluminum stock(UGLY) or inlaying aluminum skeletons inside the stocks which increases weight but does a good job and to date is about the best choice for rigidity and cosmetic results. My thinking, why not take the barrel and stock and let them work together to make the strongest, most flex resistant system possible. Bed the two in a perfectly stressfree system most of the length from the rear receiver tang to nearly the tip of the forend. Yes, if significant force is applied to the stock, you will likely see some vertical stringing on target but when shooting off a bipod and rear bag, this should never be a problem in any way, in fact, it should dampen any "bipod bounce" shooting off a hard surface. Again, just things I think about at night while laying awake. I have already had some tell me the system will not work when the barrel heats up. My response to that is how hot will the barrel get when big game hunting or even long range varmint hunting. If the barrel gets hot to the point it will cause problems, I will be seeing the rifle owner soon for a new barrel!!! LOL I have tested these claims of accuracy problems with my heavy V-Block rifles which are bedding in a similiar manner and have never EVER had a problem at all. So why not just use that system which uses an aluminum bedding V-Block that the barrel sits in and is bolted through holding it down into the stock, mostly because of the size requirements needed for inletting the V-Block which eliminates the possibility to use the design in a sporter weight rifle. Plus, I see no real advantage for a big game rifle. The forward mounting bolt will be pillar bedded, as will the two receiver mounting bolt positions for a totally stress free bedding. The Aluminum bedding block can have some "Heat Sink" properties which can help a barrel cool faster but again, on a big game rifle, this will not have any advantage. Another issue is cost, my double recoil lug system will be much less expensive when we get into production then a V-Block would be. Also, the Double Recoil Lug design has twice the recoil lug contact area to the stock. Not only twice the contact area but 50% of that contact area will be ahead on the forend where the stock is solid filled completely behind it. No more relying on the stock at the traditional recoil lug position which is just ahead of the relatively weak magazine walls. With the larger chamberings, mag wall bowing can be a big problem, that should be eliminated with my Double Recoil Lug barrel design. Much to test and prove but I am 100% confident it will perform as designed. You all will be the first to know!!! Again, pictures will be coming soon. [/QUOTE]
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