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<blockquote data-quote="Hand Skills" data-source="post: 1518185" data-attributes="member: 103303"><p>Thanks for all the positive feedback! I appreciate all the folks who have shared their experiences on the subject.</p><p></p><p>[USER=10755]@MagnumManiac[/USER] - In case I wasn't clear, the red arrows are indicating a measurement of how much muscle was above the spine, not an aim point. I appreciate criticism, but in this case I think we're saying the same thing!</p><p></p><p>Very hard to illustrate an accurate 'point of aim' for a 3 dimensional target in 2d (as you candidly pointed out).</p><p></p><p>Some hunters are just starting out, and many do not process themselves. Depending on presentation, the scapula may not be covering the lungs at all. My point is the term 'high shoulder' can be misleading.</p><p></p><p>Every presentation is unique, and as a result, most shots are too.</p><p></p><p>[USER=105102]@Ckgworks[/USER] - I think you are spot on. Im curious about your markup - could you PM it to me if you're not comfortable posting? It's pretty hard to find good nervous system diagrams. My understanding is the 'autonomic plexus' descends rearward from T1-T2-T3. They run toward the posterior and join up with the aorta (for lack of a better term). The 'lung' branch continues back, while the 'heart' and 'recurrent laryngeal' nerve kind of loop around the aorta and follow it down to the heart.</p><p></p><p>For me it's kind of funny - over the years I've tried getting fancy with shot placement, sometimes to poor effect. With decades of experience and countless necropsies, I've zeroed in on the small zone between the heart and spine as my preferred target. The funny part is, that's right between the front legs, and halfway up the chest! Not a new concept - I have come full circle! (The only real difference is now I aim a lot smaller.)</p><p></p><p>There are exceptions - I know it's not a shoulder shot, but we've found a follow up into the hump of a moose is a pretty good way of crumpling them when retrieval is a concern. Works great when they are facing away too. I can't think of a single instance where I've intentionally placed my first shot above the spine though...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hand Skills, post: 1518185, member: 103303"] Thanks for all the positive feedback! I appreciate all the folks who have shared their experiences on the subject. [USER=10755]@MagnumManiac[/USER] - In case I wasn't clear, the red arrows are indicating a measurement of how much muscle was above the spine, not an aim point. I appreciate criticism, but in this case I think we're saying the same thing! Very hard to illustrate an accurate 'point of aim' for a 3 dimensional target in 2d (as you candidly pointed out). Some hunters are just starting out, and many do not process themselves. Depending on presentation, the scapula may not be covering the lungs at all. My point is the term 'high shoulder' can be misleading. Every presentation is unique, and as a result, most shots are too. [USER=105102]@Ckgworks[/USER] - I think you are spot on. Im curious about your markup - could you PM it to me if you're not comfortable posting? It's pretty hard to find good nervous system diagrams. My understanding is the 'autonomic plexus' descends rearward from T1-T2-T3. They run toward the posterior and join up with the aorta (for lack of a better term). The 'lung' branch continues back, while the 'heart' and 'recurrent laryngeal' nerve kind of loop around the aorta and follow it down to the heart. For me it's kind of funny - over the years I've tried getting fancy with shot placement, sometimes to poor effect. With decades of experience and countless necropsies, I've zeroed in on the small zone between the heart and spine as my preferred target. The funny part is, that's right between the front legs, and halfway up the chest! Not a new concept - I have come full circle! (The only real difference is now I aim a lot smaller.) There are exceptions - I know it's not a shoulder shot, but we've found a follow up into the hump of a moose is a pretty good way of crumpling them when retrieval is a concern. Works great when they are facing away too. I can't think of a single instance where I've intentionally placed my first shot above the spine though... [/QUOTE]
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