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<blockquote data-quote="Shawn Carlock" data-source="post: 495779" data-attributes="member: 4"><p>I have just finished initial testing of the gen 2 Berger Hybrid 300gr .338 bullet. I have copied my findings from the gen 1 bullet and comparisons to the 300 SMK below for you to see. I will say that the gen 2 bullet is a much improved bullet over the gen 1 design and alot more what I had expected from Berger. The gen 1 bullets had issues when a certain velocity/twist threshold was crossed (specifically accuracy when totally out the door). </p><p> Now for the good news, the gen 2 bullets I tested show excellent baring surface consistancy running +/-.001" for a whole box (this makes measuring a waste of time and give those without a micrometer seater more consistent OAL). In initial testing much like the gen1 bullets the gen 2 bullets ran at a higher velocity than the 300 SMK at the same relative pressures for an additional 35-50 fps. Typical of most Berger bullets I have worked with they are sensitive to the amount of jump to the lands in terms of accuracy. This required a little extra lod developement work but in the end once the correct length was cornered they shot extremely well. Shooting in the .2's and 3's at 100 yards was not a big trick in the standard 338 Edge (2860 fps) and the +P version (2989 fps). </p><p> Looking at the below data you will see the measurements of the gen 2 bullet differ from the gen 1 bullet some and this may affect the BC slightly but it might not at all. I am planning on some long range BC testing and some low speed expansion testing (1600-1200 fps) in the near future. I will keep you guys updated when I can. At this point we are looking seriously at using the gen 2 bullet for hunting this next year, I have high hopes and looks to be a winner.</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">05-18-10</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">SPECS vs. SIERRA MATCHKING</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">SMK BERGER gen 1</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">OVERALL LENGTH 1.718" 1.824"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BARING SURFACE .649" .571"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">DIAMETER MAX BARING .3385" .3385</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">DIAMETER MIN BARING .3385" .3381"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BARING SURFACE ES .019" .006"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BASE TO FORWARD BARING .897" .891</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">BOAT TAIL LENGTH .240" .316" </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">OAL RELATIVE TO LANDS .000" +.126" </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">WEIGHT AVE 300.0 gr 300.2 gr</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><strong>NOTES</strong>:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><strong>BERGER 300 GR HYBRID</strong></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">OAL IN <strong>CANYON RIFLE # 0051</strong> 3.000" W COMP #1 TO LANDS OR 3.920" OAL</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">HEAD SPACE OF FIRED CASE 3.019"</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">LOADED TO AN OAL OF 3.000" W COMP # 1</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">H1000</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">90.0 GR 2801 FPS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">91.0 GR 2812 FPS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">92.0 GR 2861 FPS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">93.0 GR 2873 FPS FAINT EJECTOR MARK, SHOT WELL</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">94.0 GR DNS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">95.0 GR DNS</span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">96.0 GR DNS</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><strong>+P TEST RIFLE</strong> – OAL to lands 3.268" or OAL of 4.200", barely in the neck of the case</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Loaded: H1000 an OAL w comp # 1 to 3.267"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">95.0 gr. 2807 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">96.0 gr. 2824 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">97.0 gr. 2849 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">98.0 gr. 2892 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">99.0 gr. 2930 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">100.0 gr. 2969 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">101.0 gr. 3003 fps faint ejector mark</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">102.0 gr. 3030 fps visible ejector mark </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Loaded 101 gr for test, accuracy was horrible 3-4" at 100 yards. ES 12 fps and 3003 ave velocity.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Loaded 96.0 gr and shot 3/8" at 100 yards</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Loaded 100 gr and shot < 3/8" with 1-11 twist Krieger barrel at 3052 fps</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Loaded 101 gr and shot <1/2 moa at 100 yards with + P McM and 300 SMK's</span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">05-21-10</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Shot some test loads in the tube rifle Hart 1-10 @ 3000 fps ,group size was better than the 9 twist but still 1.50-1.75" at 100 yards.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Reduced the load from 100 to 98 grains and a velocity of 2900 fps, groups the same.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Reduced load from 98 to 96 grains and a velocity of 2800 fps, instantly shot under .50 moa.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Canyon Rifle # 0051</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Loaded 93.0 grains of H1000 and an OAL of 3.995", shot exceptionally well .247" and .261" at 100 yards. Velocity was 2868 fps.</span></span></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></strong> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">07-27-10</span></span></strong></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Shot some 5 shot groups after hearing complaint from customers on group size with the 300 gr Hybrid. Shot 6, 5 shot groups in 2 rifles # 0051 and # 0072, all groups would put 3 and sometimes 4 bullets in the same hole but 1 or 2 bullets in every group would hit ½- ¾" from the group. If 2 shots left the group they usually hit together???? Also dad tried in his "Canyon Pistol" and "Black Widow" rifle both in standard 338 Edge, neither gun would shoot under 3/4" with any combination of powder charge (2600-2850 fps) or oal (+.020" to -.080"). All 4 guns would shoot the 300 SMK with a variety of loads from .180" to .392". None of the 300 SMK loads went as bad as ½".</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">03-29-11</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">300 GR HYBRID GEN 2 TESTING</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">SMK BERGER BERGER </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> GEN 1 GEN 2</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">OVERALL LENGTH 1.718" 1.824" 1.817"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BARING SURFACE .649" .571" .584"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">DIAMETER MAX BARING .3385" .3385 .3380"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">DIAMETER MIN BARING .3385" .3381" .3376"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BARING SURFACE ES .019" .006" .001" (VERY GOOD)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BASE TO FORWARD BARING .897" .891 .881"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">BOAT TAIL LENGTH .240" .316" .297"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">OAL RELATIVE TO LANDS .000" +.126" +.108"</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">WEIGHT AVE 300.0 gr 300.2 gr 300.1 gr</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">LOADED FOR THE +P CANYON RIFLE</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">OAL 4.126" OR 3.193" (COMP #2), CCI 250, H1000</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">95.0 GR 2861 FPS</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">96.0 GR 2886 FPS</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">97.0 GR 2909 FPS</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">98.0 GR 2942 FPS</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">99.0 GR 2989 FPS</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">SHOT 99.0 GR 5 ROUND GROUP – 2982 FPS AVE / ES 8 FPS ½ MOA EASY ENOUGH AT -.000" OFF LANDS</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">LOADED FOR # 0051 RIFLE (STANDARD 338 EDGE)</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">OAL 3.949" OR 3.024" (COMP # 2), CCI 250, H1000</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">93.0 GRAINS AVE VEL 2930 FPS / ES 12 FPS </span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">GROUPS .2 - .3" @ 100 YARDS</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span> </p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">03-30-11</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">LOADED TEST LOADS FOR #0051 CANYON RIFLE</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">93.0 GR H1000, CCI250, OAL 3.024" W COMP # 2</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">OAL TESTING 3 SHOT GROUPS @ 100 YARDS:</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> GROUP ES</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">+.010" .992" 7 </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">+.005" .844" 25</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">+.000" .510" 6</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">-.005" .311" 12</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">-.010" .779" 19</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">LOADED FOR +P TEST RIFLE</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">99.0 GR H1000, CCI 250'S, OAL 3.193" W COMP # 2</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">GROUPS VELOCITY ES</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">.752" 2961 FPS 14</span></span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">LOADED FOR +P TEST RIFLE</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">98.0 GR H1000, CCI 250'S, OAL 3.193" W COMP # 2</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">GROUPS VELOCITY ES</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">.591" 2923 FPS 6</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">.486" 2924 FPS 7</span></span></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">FINAL LOADS</span></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">92.0 GR H1000, OAL 3.019" (-005") IN # 0051, 2835 AVE FPS / ES 12 FPS .292"</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ZEROED #51 WITH THIS LOAD @ 100 YARDS</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">98.0 GR H1000, OAL 3.188" (-005") IN +P, 2968 AVE FPS / ES 9 FPS .348" </span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">ZEROED +P WITH THIS LOAD @ 100 YARDS</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"></span> </p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shawn Carlock, post: 495779, member: 4"] I have just finished initial testing of the gen 2 Berger Hybrid 300gr .338 bullet. I have copied my findings from the gen 1 bullet and comparisons to the 300 SMK below for you to see. I will say that the gen 2 bullet is a much improved bullet over the gen 1 design and alot more what I had expected from Berger. The gen 1 bullets had issues when a certain velocity/twist threshold was crossed (specifically accuracy when totally out the door). Now for the good news, the gen 2 bullets I tested show excellent baring surface consistancy running +/-.001" for a whole box (this makes measuring a waste of time and give those without a micrometer seater more consistent OAL). In initial testing much like the gen1 bullets the gen 2 bullets ran at a higher velocity than the 300 SMK at the same relative pressures for an additional 35-50 fps. Typical of most Berger bullets I have worked with they are sensitive to the amount of jump to the lands in terms of accuracy. This required a little extra lod developement work but in the end once the correct length was cornered they shot extremely well. Shooting in the .2's and 3's at 100 yards was not a big trick in the standard 338 Edge (2860 fps) and the +P version (2989 fps). Looking at the below data you will see the measurements of the gen 2 bullet differ from the gen 1 bullet some and this may affect the BC slightly but it might not at all. I am planning on some long range BC testing and some low speed expansion testing (1600-1200 fps) in the near future. I will keep you guys updated when I can. At this point we are looking seriously at using the gen 2 bullet for hunting this next year, I have high hopes and looks to be a winner. [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]05-18-10[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [B][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]SPECS vs. SIERRA MATCHKING[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]SMK BERGER gen 1[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]OVERALL LENGTH 1.718” 1.824”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BARING SURFACE .649” .571”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]DIAMETER MAX BARING .3385” .3385[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]DIAMETER MIN BARING .3385” .3381”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BARING SURFACE ES .019” .006”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BASE TO FORWARD BARING .897” .891[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]BOAT TAIL LENGTH .240” .316” [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]OAL RELATIVE TO LANDS .000” +.126” [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]WEIGHT AVE 300.0 gr 300.2 gr[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][B]NOTES[/B]:[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][B]BERGER 300 GR HYBRID[/B][B][/B][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]OAL IN [B]CANYON RIFLE # 0051[/B] 3.000” W COMP #1 TO LANDS OR 3.920” OAL[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri] [/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]HEAD SPACE OF FIRED CASE 3.019”[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri] [/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]LOADED TO AN OAL OF 3.000” W COMP # 1[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]H1000[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri] [/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]90.0 GR 2801 FPS[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]91.0 GR 2812 FPS[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]92.0 GR 2861 FPS[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]93.0 GR 2873 FPS FAINT EJECTOR MARK, SHOT WELL[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]94.0 GR DNS[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]95.0 GR DNS[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri]96.0 GR DNS[/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri][B]+P TEST RIFLE[/B] – OAL to lands 3.268” or OAL of 4.200”, barely in the neck of the case[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Loaded: H1000 an OAL w comp # 1 to 3.267”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]95.0 gr. 2807 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]96.0 gr. 2824 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]97.0 gr. 2849 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]98.0 gr. 2892 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]99.0 gr. 2930 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]100.0 gr. 2969 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]101.0 gr. 3003 fps faint ejector mark[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]102.0 gr. 3030 fps visible ejector mark [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Loaded 101 gr for test, accuracy was horrible 3-4” at 100 yards. ES 12 fps and 3003 ave velocity.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Loaded 96.0 gr and shot 3/8” at 100 yards[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Loaded 100 gr and shot < 3/8” with 1-11 twist Krieger barrel at 3052 fps[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Loaded 101 gr and shot <1/2 moa at 100 yards with + P McM and 300 SMK’s[/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]05-21-10[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Shot some test loads in the tube rifle Hart 1-10 @ 3000 fps ,group size was better than the 9 twist but still 1.50-1.75” at 100 yards.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Reduced the load from 100 to 98 grains and a velocity of 2900 fps, groups the same.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Reduced load from 98 to 96 grains and a velocity of 2800 fps, instantly shot under .50 moa.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Canyon Rifle # 0051[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Loaded 93.0 grains of H1000 and an OAL of 3.995”, shot exceptionally well .247” and .261” at 100 yards. Velocity was 2868 fps.[/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Calibri] [/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]07-27-10[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Shot some 5 shot groups after hearing complaint from customers on group size with the 300 gr Hybrid. Shot 6, 5 shot groups in 2 rifles # 0051 and # 0072, all groups would put 3 and sometimes 4 bullets in the same hole but 1 or 2 bullets in every group would hit ½- ¾” from the group. If 2 shots left the group they usually hit together???? Also dad tried in his “Canyon Pistol” and “Black Widow” rifle both in standard 338 Edge, neither gun would shoot under 3/4” with any combination of powder charge (2600-2850 fps) or oal (+.020” to -.080”). All 4 guns would shoot the 300 SMK with a variety of loads from .180” to .392”. None of the 300 SMK loads went as bad as ½”. [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]03-29-11[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]300 GR HYBRID GEN 2 TESTING[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]SMK BERGER BERGER [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri] GEN 1 GEN 2[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]OVERALL LENGTH 1.718” 1.824” 1.817”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BARING SURFACE .649” .571” .584”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]DIAMETER MAX BARING .3385” .3385 .3380”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]DIAMETER MIN BARING .3385” .3381” .3376”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BARING SURFACE ES .019” .006” .001” (VERY GOOD)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BASE TO FORWARD BARING .897” .891 .881”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]BOAT TAIL LENGTH .240” .316” .297”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]OAL RELATIVE TO LANDS .000” +.126” +.108”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]WEIGHT AVE 300.0 gr 300.2 gr 300.1 gr[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]LOADED FOR THE +P CANYON RIFLE[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]OAL 4.126” OR 3.193” (COMP #2), CCI 250, H1000[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]95.0 GR 2861 FPS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]96.0 GR 2886 FPS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]97.0 GR 2909 FPS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]98.0 GR 2942 FPS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]99.0 GR 2989 FPS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]SHOT 99.0 GR 5 ROUND GROUP – 2982 FPS AVE / ES 8 FPS ½ MOA EASY ENOUGH AT -.000” OFF LANDS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]LOADED FOR # 0051 RIFLE (STANDARD 338 EDGE)[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]OAL 3.949” OR 3.024” (COMP # 2), CCI 250, H1000[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]93.0 GRAINS AVE VEL 2930 FPS / ES 12 FPS [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]GROUPS .2 - .3” @ 100 YARDS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri] [/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]03-30-11[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]LOADED TEST LOADS FOR #0051 CANYON RIFLE[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]93.0 GR H1000, CCI250, OAL 3.024” W COMP # 2[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]OAL TESTING 3 SHOT GROUPS @ 100 YARDS:[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri] GROUP ES[/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]+.010” .992” 7 [/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]+.005” .844” 25[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]+.000” .510” 6[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]-.005” .311” 12[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]-.010” .779” 19[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]LOADED FOR +P TEST RIFLE[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]99.0 GR H1000, CCI 250’S, OAL 3.193” W COMP # 2[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]GROUPS VELOCITY ES[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3].752” 2961 FPS 14[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]LOADED FOR +P TEST RIFLE[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]98.0 GR H1000, CCI 250’S, OAL 3.193” W COMP # 2[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]GROUPS VELOCITY ES[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3].591” 2923 FPS 6[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3].486” 2924 FPS 7[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [B][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]FINAL LOADS[/FONT][/SIZE][/B] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]92.0 GR H1000, OAL 3.019” (-005”) IN # 0051, 2835 AVE FPS / ES 12 FPS .292”[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]ZEROED #51 WITH THIS LOAD @ 100 YARDS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]98.0 GR H1000, OAL 3.188” (-005”) IN +P, 2968 AVE FPS / ES 9 FPS .348” [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]ZEROED +P WITH THIS LOAD @ 100 YARDS[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri] [/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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