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The .275 Weatherby for LRH?
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<blockquote data-quote="Brent" data-source="post: 5781" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>I had to reread this thread "twice" to see where I missed something, I missed alot the first time. Now I know alot's been said between you boys, but it brings up a few more things too, a good arguement always does though. <img src="http://images/icons/grin.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> At this point, I know neither one of you's got thin skin either, so suck it up guys... here goes. </p><p></p><p>DC posted a .485 BC for the Sierra 120... that's the first thing I missed the first time I read this. Not until Sam quoted him saying it anyway, I thought Darryl was talking about a different bullet back there, so I was confussed as hell the whole rest of the way through. I started to feel like a doughhead, that's when I knew I must have missed something back there. </p><p></p><p>For the life of me, I was even more stumped when Darryl started quoting a .370 BC for what seemed like the same bullet... I went back and read it all again, what a freakin headache. </p><p></p><p>I never seen a place where DC corrected his statement of the .485 BC before he started quoting the .370 BC.... and I'm here to tell ya, it all went down hill from there. </p><p></p><p>Seems like that's one of Sams big bitches here, at least I know what the hell he was talkin about now. </p><p></p><p>Ok now, what's the lowdown on energy requirements for deer and elk at 1000 yards and beyond, and is it the same for elk and deer both??? I'd think elk would be more like moose and require half again or two times the energy to penitrate fully than a little deer would. Am I wrong, or do you subscribe to the "slamm 'em to the ground" dead in their tracks instantly... or pass on the shot type hunting. I for one will take a shot and let the animal walk/run off and die if he pleases. The aim is a quick kill, but it don't always happen that way. </p><p></p><p>What size steel plate do I need to practice on for a elk, and what size for deer? I will have enough cash to get down there and do it sometime soon. Anyone?</p><p></p><p>I think as far as energy goes, I'm fighting a potentially loosing battle with wind and accuracy with most every cartridge I have right now before distance plays a big enough role to worry about energy. I guess if you can "consistantly" hit kill zone size targets at the ultra long range then maybe it's worth a better look at what cartridge you're shooting and what it's got left in her out that far. I for one, believe most game suffers from an over confident and unpracticed shooter that can't hit **** at the range he claims he can, not the undergunned guy. If I can't hit my kill zone size target 100% of the time at whatever range, every time I'm out shooting, my self imposed range gets reduced until I can. At least a shot can then be taken within that range with a high 90 percent chance that shot's going to connect. That said, I missed my shot on a freakin black bear at only 450 yards just weeks ago! I still haven't reconciled that misplaced shot. Every spotter round I fired right after that was dead nuts on with the vertical and wind I had dialed in, even had the 30 degree angle up hill figured right too. **** happens though. That bear died an hour later anyway, it just took a hike down and up the other side to get him **** it. </p><p></p><p>BTW, my Grandfather shoots a 257wby and a 300wby as well. As an old artillary man from the 3rd ID, he appreciates ballistics a bit more than the average guy too. <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> The 257wby's got my vote to 1000 yards, although there's always something with a little more smack down power out there in anything you choose. You never know, you might be a better shooter with that little of recoil and range could be thus extended to 1000 with confidence. <img src="http://images/icons/wink.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /> Just my 2 cents...</p><p>Take care</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brent, post: 5781, member: 99"] I had to reread this thread "twice" to see where I missed something, I missed alot the first time. Now I know alot's been said between you boys, but it brings up a few more things too, a good arguement always does though. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] At this point, I know neither one of you's got thin skin either, so suck it up guys... here goes. DC posted a .485 BC for the Sierra 120... that's the first thing I missed the first time I read this. Not until Sam quoted him saying it anyway, I thought Darryl was talking about a different bullet back there, so I was confussed as hell the whole rest of the way through. I started to feel like a doughhead, that's when I knew I must have missed something back there. For the life of me, I was even more stumped when Darryl started quoting a .370 BC for what seemed like the same bullet... I went back and read it all again, what a freakin headache. I never seen a place where DC corrected his statement of the .485 BC before he started quoting the .370 BC.... and I'm here to tell ya, it all went down hill from there. Seems like that's one of Sams big bitches here, at least I know what the hell he was talkin about now. Ok now, what's the lowdown on energy requirements for deer and elk at 1000 yards and beyond, and is it the same for elk and deer both??? I'd think elk would be more like moose and require half again or two times the energy to penitrate fully than a little deer would. Am I wrong, or do you subscribe to the "slamm 'em to the ground" dead in their tracks instantly... or pass on the shot type hunting. I for one will take a shot and let the animal walk/run off and die if he pleases. The aim is a quick kill, but it don't always happen that way. What size steel plate do I need to practice on for a elk, and what size for deer? I will have enough cash to get down there and do it sometime soon. Anyone? I think as far as energy goes, I'm fighting a potentially loosing battle with wind and accuracy with most every cartridge I have right now before distance plays a big enough role to worry about energy. I guess if you can "consistantly" hit kill zone size targets at the ultra long range then maybe it's worth a better look at what cartridge you're shooting and what it's got left in her out that far. I for one, believe most game suffers from an over confident and unpracticed shooter that can't hit **** at the range he claims he can, not the undergunned guy. If I can't hit my kill zone size target 100% of the time at whatever range, every time I'm out shooting, my self imposed range gets reduced until I can. At least a shot can then be taken within that range with a high 90 percent chance that shot's going to connect. That said, I missed my shot on a freakin black bear at only 450 yards just weeks ago! I still haven't reconciled that misplaced shot. Every spotter round I fired right after that was dead nuts on with the vertical and wind I had dialed in, even had the 30 degree angle up hill figured right too. **** happens though. That bear died an hour later anyway, it just took a hike down and up the other side to get him **** it. BTW, my Grandfather shoots a 257wby and a 300wby as well. As an old artillary man from the 3rd ID, he appreciates ballistics a bit more than the average guy too. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] The 257wby's got my vote to 1000 yards, although there's always something with a little more smack down power out there in anything you choose. You never know, you might be a better shooter with that little of recoil and range could be thus extended to 1000 with confidence. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Just my 2 cents... Take care [/QUOTE]
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