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The “It’s just a hunting rifle” Saying Bugs Me
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<blockquote data-quote="milo-2" data-source="post: 1760610" data-attributes="member: 33622"><p>I checked your profile page, do you understand this phrase has been around long before your Father may have been born?</p><p>A Winchester Model 52 was not an accurate rifle w/o a bull barrel. Not many put faith in the fact that a thin barrel Rem 700 was going to shoot as well as his Rem 700 varmint, train of thought thing.</p><p>Then consider all the manufacturers pumping out hunting rifles in the 70's, 80's, 90's and beyond. A lot of these rifles really were not that accurate. So you get the "it is not a prairie dog rifle, but good enough for deer, because now the target size has increased exponentially.</p><p>You mention prs shooting, if you were to poll most on accuracy from a heavy barrel compared to thin, the answer becomes obvious, more from a sustained rate of fire than an accuracy one, so if some of these guys say this phrase, are they wrong?</p><p></p><p>I am relatively sure these words have came from my mouth, but then again, I was never going to attempt even a 300 yard shot, and probably because back then I would have never known the range of the target.</p><p>If you are running into people who plan on LR hunting making this statement, it becomes your job or our job to do some serious educating right in the moment. </p><p></p><p>I really do not hunt today, but still do my part, I run into a lot of guys at the range I frequent who plop a factory rifle down(could be a custom too) with factory ammo and say a deer or elk at this distance is my goal. I will usually ask them to shoot a 10" plate at their specified goal and I will spot, there is probably a 10% chance this is going to end well.</p><p>Like I said, education, helpful hints, guidance in general is our friend here. Or maybe getting to the core of the statement, it may not be as drastic as one perceives.</p><p>Either way, wounding game animals should never be an option, and I am with you 100% on that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milo-2, post: 1760610, member: 33622"] I checked your profile page, do you understand this phrase has been around long before your Father may have been born? A Winchester Model 52 was not an accurate rifle w/o a bull barrel. Not many put faith in the fact that a thin barrel Rem 700 was going to shoot as well as his Rem 700 varmint, train of thought thing. Then consider all the manufacturers pumping out hunting rifles in the 70's, 80's, 90's and beyond. A lot of these rifles really were not that accurate. So you get the "it is not a prairie dog rifle, but good enough for deer, because now the target size has increased exponentially. You mention prs shooting, if you were to poll most on accuracy from a heavy barrel compared to thin, the answer becomes obvious, more from a sustained rate of fire than an accuracy one, so if some of these guys say this phrase, are they wrong? I am relatively sure these words have came from my mouth, but then again, I was never going to attempt even a 300 yard shot, and probably because back then I would have never known the range of the target. If you are running into people who plan on LR hunting making this statement, it becomes your job or our job to do some serious educating right in the moment. I really do not hunt today, but still do my part, I run into a lot of guys at the range I frequent who plop a factory rifle down(could be a custom too) with factory ammo and say a deer or elk at this distance is my goal. I will usually ask them to shoot a 10" plate at their specified goal and I will spot, there is probably a 10% chance this is going to end well. Like I said, education, helpful hints, guidance in general is our friend here. Or maybe getting to the core of the statement, it may not be as drastic as one perceives. Either way, wounding game animals should never be an option, and I am with you 100% on that. [/QUOTE]
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