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<blockquote data-quote="Scot E" data-source="post: 638434" data-attributes="member: 10832"><p>Welcome to LRH!</p><p></p><p>I will give you my opinion on this but will readily admit that I am likely out of step with main stream when it comes to a couple terminal issues, especially ft lbs and premium bullets so keep that in mind. </p><p></p><p>I personally put almost no creedence in the ft lbs of a bullet/cartridge combo. I won't go into the reasons here but suffice to say I think it is far less important than other characteristics. Instead I pay quite a bit of attention to down range velocity in relation to how it affects bullet expansion and penetration. Because of this is I look a lot more at BC and SD to figure out my effective range. </p><p></p><p>In general premium bonded type bullets by design shed little weight and IMO have a much more difficult time expanding properly compared to how they are advertised. Because of this there is way too much penciling through animals for my taste. I would much prefer a bullet that is designed to shred weight and pieces which will ideally do as much damage as possible over as big of an area as possible while penetrating as far as possible. For this reason I have really fallen in love with the A-max bullet especially for mule deer sized and smaller game. At longer distances they really perform very well on big game animals. I do recommend that a guy stays with the heavier for caliber version so you get as much penetration as possible. The 208 A-max is probably the only A-max bullet I would use on elk though and I would be aiming just in front of the crease staying away from the leg and should joint. Hey, if I wasn't shooting LR I would still be using the Hornady BTSP. I just love the way they perform on game. </p><p></p><p>I likely need to revisit Berger bullets. I had some bad results with them and had some buddies that had horrible results, lot of zero expansion results, but that was early on and I think things have changed enough for me to give them a try again.</p><p></p><p>The 7mm will definitively take care of an elk but I have always been a 30 caliber + guy for elk. I just respect them too much and understand by experience how tough they can be and how many miles they can traveled while injured if you don't put them down properly. for me the 30 and 338 do that better. </p><p></p><p>Scot E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scot E, post: 638434, member: 10832"] Welcome to LRH! I will give you my opinion on this but will readily admit that I am likely out of step with main stream when it comes to a couple terminal issues, especially ft lbs and premium bullets so keep that in mind. I personally put almost no creedence in the ft lbs of a bullet/cartridge combo. I won't go into the reasons here but suffice to say I think it is far less important than other characteristics. Instead I pay quite a bit of attention to down range velocity in relation to how it affects bullet expansion and penetration. Because of this is I look a lot more at BC and SD to figure out my effective range. In general premium bonded type bullets by design shed little weight and IMO have a much more difficult time expanding properly compared to how they are advertised. Because of this there is way too much penciling through animals for my taste. I would much prefer a bullet that is designed to shred weight and pieces which will ideally do as much damage as possible over as big of an area as possible while penetrating as far as possible. For this reason I have really fallen in love with the A-max bullet especially for mule deer sized and smaller game. At longer distances they really perform very well on big game animals. I do recommend that a guy stays with the heavier for caliber version so you get as much penetration as possible. The 208 A-max is probably the only A-max bullet I would use on elk though and I would be aiming just in front of the crease staying away from the leg and should joint. Hey, if I wasn't shooting LR I would still be using the Hornady BTSP. I just love the way they perform on game. I likely need to revisit Berger bullets. I had some bad results with them and had some buddies that had horrible results, lot of zero expansion results, but that was early on and I think things have changed enough for me to give them a try again. The 7mm will definitively take care of an elk but I have always been a 30 caliber + guy for elk. I just respect them too much and understand by experience how tough they can be and how many miles they can traveled while injured if you don't put them down properly. for me the 30 and 338 do that better. Scot E. [/QUOTE]
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