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<blockquote data-quote="bwaites" data-source="post: 223572" data-attributes="member: 8733"><p>This is a very difficult situation, but accidents DO occur, that's why they are called "accidents". Not all the facts are available to us, and may never be. Compounding one tragedy by putting this kid in an unwinnable situation by prosecuting him isn't the answer in my book, at least not with the available facts so far.</p><p> </p><p>Here is a much more easily reviewed story that happened to a local sheriffs deputy while hunting in open country, no trees, clear weather. The deputy reports having made eye contact with the shooter prior to being shot. (That part is not in this story, but was reported in others.)</p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: #8b0000">Columbia Basin Herald story</span></em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>Deputy remains at Harborview</strong></p><p>EPHRATA - <em><span style="color: darkred">A Moses Lake floor installer was charged Monday in Grant County Superior Court in the hunting-related shooting of an off-duty Grant County deputy.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">The courtroom's benches were full and deputies stood near the doorways to watch the proceeding.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Before a packed courtroom, Judge John Antosz set bail at $70,000 for Robbie Joe Marcher. Grant County Prosecutor John Knodell originally asked that Marcher's bail be $100,000. </span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Marcher, 38, of Moses Lake, was arrested for allegedly shooting deputy Earl Romig, 26, once in the back while Romig was coyote hunting near Soap Lake Thursday.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Romig survived the shooting, but received internal injures and it was initially believed his right leg could be paralyzed. He received X-rays on the leg Monday because he said he felt it break when he was shot, according to a hospital-sponsored patient information Web site.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">He was listed in serious condition Monday afternoon in the intensive care unit at Seattle's Harborview Medical Center.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Marcher was charged with third-degree assault, unlawful possession of a firearm and failing to summon assistance. He later reportedly told detectives he thought he shot at a coyote and didn't return to see what he hit.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">"It's a mixed bag, if you will," Antosz said. "He's not charged with an intentional crime."</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Knodell said the police investigation into the shooting is ongoing and he's still receiving information. As a result, other charges could be recommended, he said.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Marcher wasn't supposed to have a gun because of a prior conviction and wasn't licensed to hunt, Knodell said.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Marcher's prior convictions include criminal trespassing, marijuana possession, malicious mischief, reckless driving and hunting during a closed season, Knodell said.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Knodell also claimed the three distress shots Romig fired after being shot could be heard by a passing motorist who was farther away than Marcher.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">"I think it's clear from this information that Mr. Marcher fled the area knowing he shot a human being that obviously needed help," Knodell said.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">According to court documents, Marcher received a phone call from his wife who told him there was a shooting in the area he and his father were hunting in.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">In an interview with investigators Marcher reportedly said "he knew at the time he might have shot a person instead of a coyote but he didn't call authorities to advise a person may be shot and lying just west of the intersection of (Road) B N.W. and (Road) 21 N.W,," according to court documents.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">After the proceeding, Knodell told the Columbia Basin Herald he is working to have a court order issued to remove all guns from Marcher's home.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Grant County Chief Deputy John Turley said the bail amount is fitting at this point. The onus is on investigators to prove if something other than an accidental shooting took place, he said.</span></em></p><p> </p><p><em><span style="color: darkred">Marcher is scheduled to enter his plea on Tuesday, Jan. 22, which is when his trial date is expected to be set. He will be appointed an attorney, Antosz said.</span></em></p><p> </p><p>Look at the things this 38 year old adult KNEW and did nothing about:</p><p> </p><p>1) He apparently admitted that he knew he might have hit a person.</p><p>2) He did not go to follow up his shot. </p><p>3) He could not have failed to hear the 3 shots the deputy fired as a distress signal.</p><p>4) He did not turn himself in when his wife notified him that someone had been shot near where he was hunting.</p><p>5) He shot a human standing upright, wearing blaze orange, (not in the article but later reported.)</p><p>6) He was not licensed to hunt.</p><p>7) He was not supposed to be in possession of a firearm.</p><p> </p><p>Compare that with the 14 year old who SHOULD have known what he was shooting at in poor conditions and without adult supervision, and it looks a little like we should give the kid a break, huh? </p><p> </p><p>I tend to believe the parents are as responsible as the kid, though.</p><p> </p><p>Bill</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bwaites, post: 223572, member: 8733"] This is a very difficult situation, but accidents DO occur, that's why they are called "accidents". Not all the facts are available to us, and may never be. Compounding one tragedy by putting this kid in an unwinnable situation by prosecuting him isn't the answer in my book, at least not with the available facts so far. Here is a much more easily reviewed story that happened to a local sheriffs deputy while hunting in open country, no trees, clear weather. The deputy reports having made eye contact with the shooter prior to being shot. (That part is not in this story, but was reported in others.) [I][COLOR=#8b0000]Columbia Basin Herald story[/COLOR][/I] [B]Deputy remains at Harborview[/B] EPHRATA - [I][COLOR=darkred]A Moses Lake floor installer was charged Monday in Grant County Superior Court in the hunting-related shooting of an off-duty Grant County deputy.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]The courtroom's benches were full and deputies stood near the doorways to watch the proceeding.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Before a packed courtroom, Judge John Antosz set bail at $70,000 for Robbie Joe Marcher. Grant County Prosecutor John Knodell originally asked that Marcher's bail be $100,000. [/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Marcher, 38, of Moses Lake, was arrested for allegedly shooting deputy Earl Romig, 26, once in the back while Romig was coyote hunting near Soap Lake Thursday.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Romig survived the shooting, but received internal injures and it was initially believed his right leg could be paralyzed. He received X-rays on the leg Monday because he said he felt it break when he was shot, according to a hospital-sponsored patient information Web site.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]He was listed in serious condition Monday afternoon in the intensive care unit at Seattle's Harborview Medical Center.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Marcher was charged with third-degree assault, unlawful possession of a firearm and failing to summon assistance. He later reportedly told detectives he thought he shot at a coyote and didn't return to see what he hit.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]"It's a mixed bag, if you will," Antosz said. "He's not charged with an intentional crime."[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Knodell said the police investigation into the shooting is ongoing and he's still receiving information. As a result, other charges could be recommended, he said.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Marcher wasn't supposed to have a gun because of a prior conviction and wasn't licensed to hunt, Knodell said.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Marcher's prior convictions include criminal trespassing, marijuana possession, malicious mischief, reckless driving and hunting during a closed season, Knodell said.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Knodell also claimed the three distress shots Romig fired after being shot could be heard by a passing motorist who was farther away than Marcher.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]"I think it's clear from this information that Mr. Marcher fled the area knowing he shot a human being that obviously needed help," Knodell said.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]According to court documents, Marcher received a phone call from his wife who told him there was a shooting in the area he and his father were hunting in.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]In an interview with investigators Marcher reportedly said "he knew at the time he might have shot a person instead of a coyote but he didn't call authorities to advise a person may be shot and lying just west of the intersection of (Road) B N.W. and (Road) 21 N.W,," according to court documents.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]After the proceeding, Knodell told the Columbia Basin Herald he is working to have a court order issued to remove all guns from Marcher's home.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Grant County Chief Deputy John Turley said the bail amount is fitting at this point. The onus is on investigators to prove if something other than an accidental shooting took place, he said.[/COLOR][/I] [I][COLOR=darkred]Marcher is scheduled to enter his plea on Tuesday, Jan. 22, which is when his trial date is expected to be set. He will be appointed an attorney, Antosz said.[/COLOR][/I] Look at the things this 38 year old adult KNEW and did nothing about: 1) He apparently admitted that he knew he might have hit a person. 2) He did not go to follow up his shot. 3) He could not have failed to hear the 3 shots the deputy fired as a distress signal. 4) He did not turn himself in when his wife notified him that someone had been shot near where he was hunting. 5) He shot a human standing upright, wearing blaze orange, (not in the article but later reported.) 6) He was not licensed to hunt. 7) He was not supposed to be in possession of a firearm. Compare that with the 14 year old who SHOULD have known what he was shooting at in poor conditions and without adult supervision, and it looks a little like we should give the kid a break, huh? I tend to believe the parents are as responsible as the kid, though. Bill [/QUOTE]
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