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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1549695" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>This goes for all bullets don't it, mono, frangible, bonded, if you know your bullet and use it accordingly it worked awesome!</p><p>I've blown 140 Accubonds down to the base, on a cow elk and the bullet didn't enter her chest. Ya, I blame myself cause I knew better but it's hard to fight against marketing. I had a guy smoke a cow in the shoulder with a 180 Accubond in a 300 at 85 yards after being to to absalutely not hit her in the shoulder, that one took me some time to get killed. The amount of bonded bullets that don't get through an elk shoulder is amazing.</p><p>What I've seen evidence of happening is these are bullets that open on contact and are heavy constructed like, accubonds or TSX, they are open before hitting bone so you have a half inch diameter or more to shove through an entire elk. I have not had a Berger or matrix stop on an elk shoulder, though I tend to shy away from that for first shots but do it more on covering someone's bad shot or trying to dump one where they stand, I think what happens since an open tip opens hydraulically is it actually in the shoulder before they start to open and when they do they don't open big but stay much narrower till out of the hard stuff. It's a balance between frontal area and momentum, your right that it is physics and it makes total sense when looking at it that way when you see the evidence.</p><p>I have a picture somewhere of a steel plate I was shooting with 140 Cutting edge and 140 Berger's, the cutting edge would not penetrate the plate even have one stuck half way through, the Berger's we're blowing through and skipping up the hill, one of the cutting edge bullets is stuck mid way through the plate, it's mushroomed to large for it's momentum to get it through.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1549695, member: 13632"] This goes for all bullets don't it, mono, frangible, bonded, if you know your bullet and use it accordingly it worked awesome! I've blown 140 Accubonds down to the base, on a cow elk and the bullet didn't enter her chest. Ya, I blame myself cause I knew better but it's hard to fight against marketing. I had a guy smoke a cow in the shoulder with a 180 Accubond in a 300 at 85 yards after being to to absalutely not hit her in the shoulder, that one took me some time to get killed. The amount of bonded bullets that don't get through an elk shoulder is amazing. What I've seen evidence of happening is these are bullets that open on contact and are heavy constructed like, accubonds or TSX, they are open before hitting bone so you have a half inch diameter or more to shove through an entire elk. I have not had a Berger or matrix stop on an elk shoulder, though I tend to shy away from that for first shots but do it more on covering someone's bad shot or trying to dump one where they stand, I think what happens since an open tip opens hydraulically is it actually in the shoulder before they start to open and when they do they don't open big but stay much narrower till out of the hard stuff. It's a balance between frontal area and momentum, your right that it is physics and it makes total sense when looking at it that way when you see the evidence. I have a picture somewhere of a steel plate I was shooting with 140 Cutting edge and 140 Berger's, the cutting edge would not penetrate the plate even have one stuck half way through, the Berger's we're blowing through and skipping up the hill, one of the cutting edge bullets is stuck mid way through the plate, it's mushroomed to large for it's momentum to get it through. [/QUOTE]
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