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Spotting scopes input????
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<blockquote data-quote="yobuck" data-source="post: 1875685" data-attributes="member: 12443"><p>Well for the record, the old Bushnell Spacemaster from the 70s 80s and into the 90s had a triplate objective lens, and the first ones i bought new in the 70s cost me about $90 bucks each, and a 20x wide eyepiece was about $25. Today you will pay $100 or more for a used 20 or 22 x used (if) you can find one.</p><p>But they can be made up from telescope eyepieces if you know how to do it. But none the less, you wont be getting any $20 eyepieces.</p><p>In laymens terms the larger the objective lens, the more light is allowed to enter into the scope, therefore making it brighter to look thru on darker days than a scope having a smaller one.</p><p>But there are trade offs, especially from the portability aspect as related to the size of an 80 mm and a 60 mm.</p><p>Ive owned large WW2 era binoculars with 120mm objectives that i used for long range hunting. </p><p>And still today, there are no finer optics made than those made in that era for the military.</p><p>And the Japs made them with 150 and 180mm objectives also. Theres a LR hunter in Pa who has 2 sets of the 180s. But guess what, it takes 2 guys to put them on a very big tripod.</p><p>And guess what else, their better for posing for a picture standing next to them then they are for real long range hunting. </p><p>Which is why i sold my 120s about 25 years ago. </p><p>If your hunting from a fixed location close to a vehicle thats one thing, and thats how much of the Pa long range hunting is done. But if your going to lugging them any type of distance, id be using good 60mm or even 50mm because they will work well for hunters also.</p><p>I have a set of old Bushnell Sentry 2 scopes in a bracket having 50mm objectives, and i have very good set of 16x eyepieces in them. I have less than $400 invested in them including the bracket.</p><p>If you would like to bring your 15x56 Swaros to sit next to them and compare, bring them, and i guarantee you will be sweating after you do because weve done that. Note im not saying better, just saying you will be sweating, and maybe even a little ****ed off.</p><p>You can buy those old Sentry 2 50mm scopes on Ebay all the time for about $75 bucks. And ive bought a few for a whole lot less. The standard 20 x eyepiece many of them have is pretty dammed good, but can be swapped out for any standard threaded one except the zooms which wont work due to focal length.</p><p>Mind you now i have 77mm Kowas also in a bracket, and would prefer them over the 50 and 60mm sets i have.</p><p>But even though there are differences, they arent huge differences even between the 50s and 77s on most days. Ideal is having multible sets, which i do. Like a gun its a piece of necessary equipment, with one size not fitting all type situations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="yobuck, post: 1875685, member: 12443"] Well for the record, the old Bushnell Spacemaster from the 70s 80s and into the 90s had a triplate objective lens, and the first ones i bought new in the 70s cost me about $90 bucks each, and a 20x wide eyepiece was about $25. Today you will pay $100 or more for a used 20 or 22 x used (if) you can find one. But they can be made up from telescope eyepieces if you know how to do it. But none the less, you wont be getting any $20 eyepieces. In laymens terms the larger the objective lens, the more light is allowed to enter into the scope, therefore making it brighter to look thru on darker days than a scope having a smaller one. But there are trade offs, especially from the portability aspect as related to the size of an 80 mm and a 60 mm. Ive owned large WW2 era binoculars with 120mm objectives that i used for long range hunting. And still today, there are no finer optics made than those made in that era for the military. And the Japs made them with 150 and 180mm objectives also. Theres a LR hunter in Pa who has 2 sets of the 180s. But guess what, it takes 2 guys to put them on a very big tripod. And guess what else, their better for posing for a picture standing next to them then they are for real long range hunting. Which is why i sold my 120s about 25 years ago. If your hunting from a fixed location close to a vehicle thats one thing, and thats how much of the Pa long range hunting is done. But if your going to lugging them any type of distance, id be using good 60mm or even 50mm because they will work well for hunters also. I have a set of old Bushnell Sentry 2 scopes in a bracket having 50mm objectives, and i have very good set of 16x eyepieces in them. I have less than $400 invested in them including the bracket. If you would like to bring your 15x56 Swaros to sit next to them and compare, bring them, and i guarantee you will be sweating after you do because weve done that. Note im not saying better, just saying you will be sweating, and maybe even a little ****ed off. You can buy those old Sentry 2 50mm scopes on Ebay all the time for about $75 bucks. And ive bought a few for a whole lot less. The standard 20 x eyepiece many of them have is pretty dammed good, but can be swapped out for any standard threaded one except the zooms which wont work due to focal length. Mind you now i have 77mm Kowas also in a bracket, and would prefer them over the 50 and 60mm sets i have. But even though there are differences, they arent huge differences even between the 50s and 77s on most days. Ideal is having multible sets, which i do. Like a gun its a piece of necessary equipment, with one size not fitting all type situations. [/QUOTE]
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