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<blockquote data-quote="Jake in NC" data-source="post: 32551" data-attributes="member: 878"><p>.. Hmmm.. Interesting points.. One thing I didn't mention in my first post was that the bullets I used on the Whitetails were the 162gr AMax or SST's.. And while they didn't seem to expand much, no deer hit with it took many more steps..</p><p></p><p><strong>Pahunter</strong>.. I'm not necessarily after zero pass-thru.. As a matter of fact pass thru, in most instances, is a good thing.. What I'm talking about is gross over-penetration.. For example, it takes "x" amount of the right combination of velocity, sectional density and energy to make a clean kill.. Anything over is unused and translates to wasted energy which also usually equates to more recoil and blast than may be necessary.. The trick being first you'd have to figure out what numbers would be acceptable for your chosen target.. Then figure out which combination will "take care of business" out to where you feel confident in making your shot with a minimum of expended energy on the wrong side of the target.. In other words, what will expend the most energy in the target while still exiting (for "game animals").? </p><p>.. For varmint bullets, like my .17's they generally expend all their energy inside the target for a net "0" of wasted energy with minimal recoil and blast.. No pass-thru is needed to bleed the animal and make an easily followed trail.. The "shock" seems to do most of the work so, IMO, for varmint bullets the old addage of "Speed Kills" rings true.. </p><p>.. Then there's the other group of folks who like to simplify the whole thing by shooting a big enough combination to "do the deed" with extreme predjudice.. While completely functional, it can be somewhat wasteful..</p><p></p><p><strong>COBrad</strong>. Not off enough to matter, I'd say.. Accuracy is a big thing and I know what you're saying about top velocity isn't always the best for it.. </p><p>.. We've seen on this site plenty of evidence that the match bullets will kill cleanly with good damage.. I just wonder if it would help if they were slowed down..</p><p>.. Geez.. Izzat enough noise outta me for now.? d:^) JiNC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jake in NC, post: 32551, member: 878"] .. Hmmm.. Interesting points.. One thing I didn't mention in my first post was that the bullets I used on the Whitetails were the 162gr AMax or SST's.. And while they didn't seem to expand much, no deer hit with it took many more steps.. [B]Pahunter[/B].. I'm not necessarily after zero pass-thru.. As a matter of fact pass thru, in most instances, is a good thing.. What I'm talking about is gross over-penetration.. For example, it takes "x" amount of the right combination of velocity, sectional density and energy to make a clean kill.. Anything over is unused and translates to wasted energy which also usually equates to more recoil and blast than may be necessary.. The trick being first you'd have to figure out what numbers would be acceptable for your chosen target.. Then figure out which combination will "take care of business" out to where you feel confident in making your shot with a minimum of expended energy on the wrong side of the target.. In other words, what will expend the most energy in the target while still exiting (for "game animals").? .. For varmint bullets, like my .17's they generally expend all their energy inside the target for a net "0" of wasted energy with minimal recoil and blast.. No pass-thru is needed to bleed the animal and make an easily followed trail.. The "shock" seems to do most of the work so, IMO, for varmint bullets the old addage of "Speed Kills" rings true.. .. Then there's the other group of folks who like to simplify the whole thing by shooting a big enough combination to "do the deed" with extreme predjudice.. While completely functional, it can be somewhat wasteful.. [B]COBrad[/B]. Not off enough to matter, I'd say.. Accuracy is a big thing and I know what you're saying about top velocity isn't always the best for it.. .. We've seen on this site plenty of evidence that the match bullets will kill cleanly with good damage.. I just wonder if it would help if they were slowed down.. .. Geez.. Izzat enough noise outta me for now.? d:^) JiNC [/QUOTE]
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