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<blockquote data-quote="fmajor" data-source="post: 321466" data-attributes="member: 20646"><p>I *think* Chain was already on his hunt this year so he probably picked up a sleeping bag. Chain?</p><p> </p><p>If not, Western Mountaineering down sleeping bags are the best (with possibly Feathered Friends) for when you've gotta carry all your stuff and still like to be warm. For bigger folks (or those who don't like the sense of being confined by a mumy style bag) i'd suggest with the Kodiak rated for 0F or the Bristlecone rated for -10F. I have a Puma in DryLoft which was rated for -20F and i've used as cold as -30F on Mt. Marcy near Lake Placid, New York (February 2005). Western Mountaineering is very conservative with the temperature ratings. They've been around a long time and *have not* 'sold-out' their quality - unlike many others in the Outdoor Industry. </p><p> </p><p>I've been winter-camping for nearly 30 years and have seen a lot of brands come and go. For those brands that have remained, many (most?) simply aren't as good as they used to be or as good as their customers *want them to be*. People become so tied to their favorite brand that when an honest comparison is done they feel like they're under personal attack. I saw how prevalent this was when i worked a part-time job for a couple years selling the higher-end backpacking and mountaineering equipment. Customers would come in requesting a certain brand and when they were shown and advised something contrary to what they wanted they wouldn't believe the truth (quite common in so many areas really). </p><p> </p><p>For example, we had all seen how horribly inconsistent North Face down sleeping bags, down parkas/jackets/vests were filled - year after year - and people still wanted them simply because of the North Face logo/reputation. It is ridiculous. Incidently, TNF still make excellent double-wall mountain tents - it's what they built that good name on even though they're owned by Vanity Fair now (OK, they did make clothing 1st, but tents really sent their popularity to the moon!).</p><p> </p><p>For sleeping bags it's gotta be Western Mountaineering - they're still making 'em in San Jose, CA with excellent Quality Control and Warranty to match.</p><p> </p><p>frank</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fmajor, post: 321466, member: 20646"] I *think* Chain was already on his hunt this year so he probably picked up a sleeping bag. Chain? If not, Western Mountaineering down sleeping bags are the best (with possibly Feathered Friends) for when you've gotta carry all your stuff and still like to be warm. For bigger folks (or those who don't like the sense of being confined by a mumy style bag) i'd suggest with the Kodiak rated for 0F or the Bristlecone rated for -10F. I have a Puma in DryLoft which was rated for -20F and i've used as cold as -30F on Mt. Marcy near Lake Placid, New York (February 2005). Western Mountaineering is very conservative with the temperature ratings. They've been around a long time and *have not* 'sold-out' their quality - unlike many others in the Outdoor Industry. I've been winter-camping for nearly 30 years and have seen a lot of brands come and go. For those brands that have remained, many (most?) simply aren't as good as they used to be or as good as their customers *want them to be*. People become so tied to their favorite brand that when an honest comparison is done they feel like they're under personal attack. I saw how prevalent this was when i worked a part-time job for a couple years selling the higher-end backpacking and mountaineering equipment. Customers would come in requesting a certain brand and when they were shown and advised something contrary to what they wanted they wouldn't believe the truth (quite common in so many areas really). For example, we had all seen how horribly inconsistent North Face down sleeping bags, down parkas/jackets/vests were filled - year after year - and people still wanted them simply because of the North Face logo/reputation. It is ridiculous. Incidently, TNF still make excellent double-wall mountain tents - it's what they built that good name on even though they're owned by Vanity Fair now (OK, they did make clothing 1st, but tents really sent their popularity to the moon!). For sleeping bags it's gotta be Western Mountaineering - they're still making 'em in San Jose, CA with excellent Quality Control and Warranty to match. frank [/QUOTE]
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