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<blockquote data-quote="LDHunter" data-source="post: 1471843" data-attributes="member: 105"><p>Sometimes you have to carefully read between the lines and nowhere did Hornady show a picture or video of a melted tip that I saw. </p><p></p><p>If I remember correctly the only proof that they offered was the unexpected slowing down of the bullet "that the drag of this projectile is changing rapidly at high velocity" then they said that "the tips are melting, they have to be melting" and later they said "something's changing, gotta be the tip".</p><p></p><p>I might not have the quotes exactly right but that seemed to be their ONLY proof that the polymer tips were melting and therefore deforming from heat.</p><p></p><p>I'm not calling BS but I don't necessarily trust their statement that actual unexpected speed degradation as evidenced by Dopler that didn't match computer modeling "had to be from tip deformation because of heat"...</p><p></p><p>They may well be right but just how hard would it be with all their incredible testing gear to put a fine mesh net a few feet under water in a lake and to let bullets fall into the water after they'd expended almost all their energy and then recover and examine the deformation of the tips and then have PROOF that tip deformation was happening presumably from heat?</p><p></p><p>I'm not from Missouri but SHOW ME tips that have been deformed from heat due to friction of the air it's passing through before you ask me to believe it. It shouldn't be that hard with all their resources.</p><p></p><p>I'm reminds of Sierra's wonderful BC charts that show BC's of their Match King (NO TIP!) bullets being reduced as velocity decreases along the bullet path. It kind of makes me wonder whether this might be happening to Hornady and either they don't realize it or chose to ignore it for marketing purposes.</p><p></p><p>Note that Sierra's Tipped Match Kings also show this lower BC as velocity decreases too.</p><p></p><p>I'm certainly not a scientist but I sometimes notice things that make me say hmmmmmm..... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LDHunter, post: 1471843, member: 105"] Sometimes you have to carefully read between the lines and nowhere did Hornady show a picture or video of a melted tip that I saw. If I remember correctly the only proof that they offered was the unexpected slowing down of the bullet "that the drag of this projectile is changing rapidly at high velocity" then they said that "the tips are melting, they have to be melting" and later they said "something's changing, gotta be the tip". I might not have the quotes exactly right but that seemed to be their ONLY proof that the polymer tips were melting and therefore deforming from heat. I'm not calling BS but I don't necessarily trust their statement that actual unexpected speed degradation as evidenced by Dopler that didn't match computer modeling "had to be from tip deformation because of heat"... They may well be right but just how hard would it be with all their incredible testing gear to put a fine mesh net a few feet under water in a lake and to let bullets fall into the water after they'd expended almost all their energy and then recover and examine the deformation of the tips and then have PROOF that tip deformation was happening presumably from heat? I'm not from Missouri but SHOW ME tips that have been deformed from heat due to friction of the air it's passing through before you ask me to believe it. It shouldn't be that hard with all their resources. I'm reminds of Sierra's wonderful BC charts that show BC's of their Match King (NO TIP!) bullets being reduced as velocity decreases along the bullet path. It kind of makes me wonder whether this might be happening to Hornady and either they don't realize it or chose to ignore it for marketing purposes. Note that Sierra's Tipped Match Kings also show this lower BC as velocity decreases too. I'm certainly not a scientist but I sometimes notice things that make me say hmmmmmm..... ;) [/QUOTE]
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