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should i glass bed my guns?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stocky" data-source="post: 318945" data-attributes="member: 17019"><p>First off we need to define synthetic. None of this applies to plastic stocks. They are too soft to be of much value accurizing and epoxy will not adhere to them adequately.</p><p> </p><p>Bedding can do 4 important things to any apropriate stock:</p><p>1. Provide a nearly perfect mould of your barreled action in the stock.</p><p>2. Improve the rigidity/stiffness of the stock.</p><p>3. Dampen vibrations that occur under the stress of firing.</p><p>4. Inhibit the effect of moisture and temperature on point of impact.</p><p> </p><p>I discuss this in some detail in our Tech Support pages: <a href="http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-template/accurize/Page" target="_blank">StockysStocks.com (MBI, Inc.) accurize</a></p><p> </p><p>Free floating is a completely separate issue. A barrel may be free floated with or without epoxy bedding.</p><p> </p><p>Aluminum bedding is almost as good as epoxy bedding, it is a way to get more precision mating of the receiver surfaces in the stock that is less prone to the compression that occurs under firing stress. It also allows a more solid lock between the receiver and the stock, therefore reduces the amount of movement of the barreled action in the stock. </p><p> </p><p>Quoting myself, <em>"<span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Every time you pull the trigger about 60,000 PSI of force inside the barrel is trying to tear it all apart. When everything settles back together an instant later, it had better settle back in the same spot or no matter what you do, no matter how steady your hold or how concentric your bullets, the next shot will not be pointed to the same place as the last. When the trigger is pulled again and again and again the entire process should take place in a manner as identical to the first shot as possible. And it should do the same next year! The barrel should vibrate the same, the action flex the same and the resting point of it all be the same again and again; season after season. rain, snow or shine." </span></span></em></p><p> </p><p>That about sums up a stock's accuracy potential, the less the components move in relation to each other under stress, the more likely the next shot will go thru the same hole as the last one. This is #1 and #2 above.</p><p> </p><p>Point number 3, vibration, is why some folks like to free float their barrels. After about 30 years and at least that many sporting rifles that I have experimented with, brings forth the conclusion that free floating barrels is highly overrated. I have not seen a sporter that shot it's best with the widest variety of loads when it's swinging free. </p><p> </p><p>Adequate, yes, several. However it will shoot at least as well bedded with a wider variety of loads. Bedding the barrel for 100% even, pressure-free contact has been the recipe so many times for me that I do it routinely when a gun just won't shoot.</p><p> </p><p>Weatherby and Remington kinda' agree. They spec barrel dampening pressure pads in the forends of all their hunting riflestocks. Your Weatherby accuracy guarantee is void without it. Yes thick, short barrels will shoot as well as they will shoot free floated, match after match after match. They do this because they are stiffer and dampen vibration by their very nature.</p><p> </p><p>Light, long hunting barrels, especially magnums, can use their stock to accomplish this. I know there's a bunch of folks that will shoot bragging groups with their free floated sporters. But I'll bet they haven't tried barrel bedding it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stocky, post: 318945, member: 17019"] First off we need to define synthetic. None of this applies to plastic stocks. They are too soft to be of much value accurizing and epoxy will not adhere to them adequately. Bedding can do 4 important things to any apropriate stock: 1. Provide a nearly perfect mould of your barreled action in the stock. 2. Improve the rigidity/stiffness of the stock. 3. Dampen vibrations that occur under the stress of firing. 4. Inhibit the effect of moisture and temperature on point of impact. I discuss this in some detail in our Tech Support pages: [URL="http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-template/accurize/Page"]StockysStocks.com (MBI, Inc.) accurize[/URL] Free floating is a completely separate issue. A barrel may be free floated with or without epoxy bedding. Aluminum bedding is almost as good as epoxy bedding, it is a way to get more precision mating of the receiver surfaces in the stock that is less prone to the compression that occurs under firing stress. It also allows a more solid lock between the receiver and the stock, therefore reduces the amount of movement of the barreled action in the stock. Quoting myself, [I]"[FONT=Arial][SIZE=2]Every time you pull the trigger about 60,000 PSI of force inside the barrel is trying to tear it all apart. When everything settles back together an instant later, it had better settle back in the same spot or no matter what you do, no matter how steady your hold or how concentric your bullets, the next shot will not be pointed to the same place as the last. When the trigger is pulled again and again and again the entire process should take place in a manner as identical to the first shot as possible. And it should do the same next year! The barrel should vibrate the same, the action flex the same and the resting point of it all be the same again and again; season after season. rain, snow or shine." [/SIZE][/FONT][/I] That about sums up a stock's accuracy potential, the less the components move in relation to each other under stress, the more likely the next shot will go thru the same hole as the last one. This is #1 and #2 above. Point number 3, vibration, is why some folks like to free float their barrels. After about 30 years and at least that many sporting rifles that I have experimented with, brings forth the conclusion that free floating barrels is highly overrated. I have not seen a sporter that shot it's best with the widest variety of loads when it's swinging free. Adequate, yes, several. However it will shoot at least as well bedded with a wider variety of loads. Bedding the barrel for 100% even, pressure-free contact has been the recipe so many times for me that I do it routinely when a gun just won't shoot. Weatherby and Remington kinda' agree. They spec barrel dampening pressure pads in the forends of all their hunting riflestocks. Your Weatherby accuracy guarantee is void without it. Yes thick, short barrels will shoot as well as they will shoot free floated, match after match after match. They do this because they are stiffer and dampen vibration by their very nature. Light, long hunting barrels, especially magnums, can use their stock to accomplish this. I know there's a bunch of folks that will shoot bragging groups with their free floated sporters. But I'll bet they haven't tried barrel bedding it. [/QUOTE]
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