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Short barrel elk .308 cal elk rifle
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<blockquote data-quote="SidecarFlip" data-source="post: 1748304" data-attributes="member: 39764"><p>I purchased a Savage 11 Lightweight hunter and had John Pierce build me a lightweight 308 short barrel medium range elk / mule deer rifle.</p><p></p><p>Used the Savage action with their competition accutrigger (red tang), Bartlien No.2 contour barrel and Manners stock with a Vortex Viper mounted in Talley rings. It's 7.5 pounds loaded. I could get below 7.5 with a lighter scope.</p><p></p><p>I load Berger 168 VLD Hunters in Lapua brass, jumped by the Berger regimen. MV is just below 2800 fps and it shoots sub MOA at 200 yards. Effective range is 500 yards or less which is fine with me as I'm a hunt and stalk person anyway. Pierce Engineering built me a fantastic and very light rifle that I use as my go to stick.</p><p></p><p>With a 308, don't expect a lot of energy past 500, it's not there. I have a 338 Lapua cannon for those 'long shots', but hardly ever use it.</p><p></p><p>Have shot and killed numerous animals over the years with it. Berger 168's with proper prep and loading always to the job for me. Excellent weight retention and excellent expansion.</p><p></p><p>One has to know the limits of any certain caliber.</p><p></p><p>Weight with me is the prime consideration, too old to be lugging a tank around. I may change out the optic next year to a Swaro, undecided on that as of yet. Really like to get below 7 pounds loaded.</p><p></p><p>The older I get (I'm almost 70 now), the lighter I want my stick to be.</p><p></p><p>IMO, 215 Bergers are just too heavy. Your bullet drop will be appreciable past 300 yards and you could very well run out of elevation adjustment on a longer shot.</p><p></p><p>Been my hands on experience that the 168's are the ideal bullet weight. I spent the better part of 3 months perfecting the load and tried various bullet weights and brands before deciding on the 168 Bergers, but then Btian Litz knows what he's doing. I like to glean shooting knowledge from people who know. He's one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SidecarFlip, post: 1748304, member: 39764"] I purchased a Savage 11 Lightweight hunter and had John Pierce build me a lightweight 308 short barrel medium range elk / mule deer rifle. Used the Savage action with their competition accutrigger (red tang), Bartlien No.2 contour barrel and Manners stock with a Vortex Viper mounted in Talley rings. It's 7.5 pounds loaded. I could get below 7.5 with a lighter scope. I load Berger 168 VLD Hunters in Lapua brass, jumped by the Berger regimen. MV is just below 2800 fps and it shoots sub MOA at 200 yards. Effective range is 500 yards or less which is fine with me as I'm a hunt and stalk person anyway. Pierce Engineering built me a fantastic and very light rifle that I use as my go to stick. With a 308, don't expect a lot of energy past 500, it's not there. I have a 338 Lapua cannon for those 'long shots', but hardly ever use it. Have shot and killed numerous animals over the years with it. Berger 168's with proper prep and loading always to the job for me. Excellent weight retention and excellent expansion. One has to know the limits of any certain caliber. Weight with me is the prime consideration, too old to be lugging a tank around. I may change out the optic next year to a Swaro, undecided on that as of yet. Really like to get below 7 pounds loaded. The older I get (I'm almost 70 now), the lighter I want my stick to be. IMO, 215 Bergers are just too heavy. Your bullet drop will be appreciable past 300 yards and you could very well run out of elevation adjustment on a longer shot. Been my hands on experience that the 168's are the ideal bullet weight. I spent the better part of 3 months perfecting the load and tried various bullet weights and brands before deciding on the 168 Bergers, but then Btian Litz knows what he's doing. I like to glean shooting knowledge from people who know. He's one. [/QUOTE]
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