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<blockquote data-quote="Bowhunter57" data-source="post: 682798" data-attributes="member: 24203"><p><span style="color: darkgreen">Clarky,</span></p><p><span style="color: #006400">Welcome to LRH forums! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">Shotguns are called scatterguns for a reason...they're a close range weapon.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">I've do my share of waterfowl and coyote hunting, but my shots are taken inside 60 yards. Patterning will help determine the best performance of the choke tube and shot size for the game you intend to hunt...and at the distances you intend to hunt them.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">A 30" circle is a standard measurement, at 40 yards for waterfowl. Where at the same distance a 10" circle is the standard for coyotes. The pellet count and the even placement of the pellets will let you know if the pattern is too tight or not tight enough.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">I used a Mossberg 500 Turkey Special, 12 gauge, 3" chamber with a 20" barrel for coyote hunting. I use a Carlsons extended choke tube that has a .680" restriction to get good patterns out to 50 yards with BB or T size alloy shot, for coyotes. There are 8 to 12 pellets inside a 10" circle at 50 yards and that's enough to kill coyotes. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">I use a Russian Baikal, 12 gauge, 3 1/2" chamber with a 24" barrel for goose hunting. I use a Terror extended choke tube with a .685" restriction for a 91% pattern inside a 30" circle at 40 yards. The ammo is 3 1/2" Kent Fast Steel, 1550 fps with BBB size pellets. It is common for me to kill geese at 50+ yards with this load and choke tube combination. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">I hope this helps you see what I'm using and how well it works. The barrel length will not determine the range of the shotgun. That thought process is "old school", as ammo ballistics and choke tube manufacturers have greatly improved. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></span></p><p><span style="color: #006400">A longer barrel will allow for a slower swing, during the shot process. Simularly, a shorter barrel will allow for a quicker swing. It's all about personal preference.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #006400">Good luck with your choices!</span></p><p><span style="color: #006400">Bowhunter57</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bowhunter57, post: 682798, member: 24203"] [COLOR=darkgreen]Clarky,[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]Welcome to LRH forums! :)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]Shotguns are called scatterguns for a reason...they're a close range weapon.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]I've do my share of waterfowl and coyote hunting, but my shots are taken inside 60 yards. Patterning will help determine the best performance of the choke tube and shot size for the game you intend to hunt...and at the distances you intend to hunt them.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]A 30" circle is a standard measurement, at 40 yards for waterfowl. Where at the same distance a 10" circle is the standard for coyotes. The pellet count and the even placement of the pellets will let you know if the pattern is too tight or not tight enough.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]I used a Mossberg 500 Turkey Special, 12 gauge, 3" chamber with a 20" barrel for coyote hunting. I use a Carlsons extended choke tube that has a .680" restriction to get good patterns out to 50 yards with BB or T size alloy shot, for coyotes. There are 8 to 12 pellets inside a 10" circle at 50 yards and that's enough to kill coyotes. :cool:[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]I use a Russian Baikal, 12 gauge, 3 1/2" chamber with a 24" barrel for goose hunting. I use a Terror extended choke tube with a .685" restriction for a 91% pattern inside a 30" circle at 40 yards. The ammo is 3 1/2" Kent Fast Steel, 1550 fps with BBB size pellets. It is common for me to kill geese at 50+ yards with this load and choke tube combination. :cool:[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]I hope this helps you see what I'm using and how well it works. The barrel length will not determine the range of the shotgun. That thought process is "old school", as ammo ballistics and choke tube manufacturers have greatly improved. :)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]A longer barrel will allow for a slower swing, during the shot process. Simularly, a shorter barrel will allow for a quicker swing. It's all about personal preference.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400][/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]Good luck with your choices![/COLOR] [COLOR=#006400]Bowhunter57[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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