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<blockquote data-quote="brittf" data-source="post: 2413628" data-attributes="member: 121792"><p>Need some help on selecting two cartridges.</p><p></p><p>Rich has been generous with his time and has agreed to provide some more detailed information regarding his designs, so I don't want to bother him further. However, while I am waiting on data, I would like to seek your opinions on what Sherman cartridges to pursue. Hopefully, this will kick off a significant discussion. I am genuinely seeking input and not 'humble bragging' with the post.</p><p></p><p>Here is the storyline so far...</p><p></p><p>I am building 5 bolt action rifles, with the support and instruction of a well-known marksman and gunsmith. I am fortunate to be in that stage of my life where I have enough disposable income and time to pursue my hobbies. This is not an idle, theoretical debate - I AM building all 5 rifles; the only question is what they will be...</p><p></p><p><strong>Rifle 1: </strong>This one is essentially complete. It is a Bat-M (long) action (single-shot) in a Cerus F-Class walnut stock and a Bartlein Heavy Varmint SS 29" barrel chambered in 6-Dasher. Although I am not, personally, currently able to shoot at the level, this rifle is CAPABLE of holding its own in international F-Open competitions. I can easily chamber another barrel (perhaps 300 WSM or 7 SAUM) for the rifle.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rifle 2: </strong>I have all of the components, but I have not yet barreled or bedded the action. It is a Tuebor titanium (short) action (custom, single-shot) in an X-Ring cherry stock and a Bartlein Heavy Varmint SS 31" barrel to be chambered in .308 Winchester. This will be a competitive F/TR rifle in local, national, and international competitions. Again, I am personally not currently able to shoot at this level, but the rifle is CAPABLE of holding its own. This is pretty much dedicated to F-Class F/TR competition with the Berger 200.20x bullets.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rifle 3:</strong> This one is not really up for debate, since I have invested a lot of money in components and reloading equipment/gear. It will be a Kelbly Prometheus (long) action in a Woox Furiosa chassis (Hawkins DBM with Win Mag magazine) and a Bartlein Carbon 29" barrel to be chambered in 300 Win Mag. The idea is to have a medium-weight rifle capable of hunting anything in North America and a 'fun' plinker for long-distance shooting. I already own everything, including lots of Peterson brass and good bullets' for this rifle.</p><p></p><p><strong>Rifle 4: </strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">This is one where I need help.</span> I want a high-end, lighter-weight hunting rifle that I can use in the Western US and Canada to hunt large game, primarily Elk and Moose. I also want it to be fun for long distance target shooting. It will be a Kelbly Nanook lightweight (long) action in a beautiful (relatively light) Cerus GT-Hybrid Maple stock (Badger DBM with appropriate magazine, up to CIP) and a carbon-wrapped (either Bartlein or Proof) 26" barrel. I am torn between the <span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)"><em>Sherman 7mm-Max or the 280 Sherman</em></span> (based off the 280 AI cartridge). It is a long action, so the question of what magazine will work is paramount. My personal aesthetic preference is for the 280 Sherman (I like long and sleek more than short and fat) but my teacher is a SAUM guy (so the 7mm-Max is his preference). What do you think about the 7mm-Max versus the 280 Sherman vs just a straight-up 280 AI?</p><p></p><p><strong>Rifle 5: </strong><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">I also need help here, although I am a bit more focused.</span> I want the 'ultimate' flat-shooting rifle for long-distance hunting and ELR target shooting. It will be a Kelbly Prometheus (long) action in a Woox Exactus chassis (Hawkins DBM with long-action or CIP magazine) and a Bartlein SS Sendero/Remington Varmint 29" barrel. I am torn between the <em><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">7mm-Mega</span></em> (based on the 300 WSM cartridge) <em><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">or the 28 Sherman Magnum</span></em> (based on the 300 PRC cartridge). The chassis and action are long (not up for debate) and my personal aesthetic preference is for the 28 Sherman Magnum but, again, my teacher is a fan of short and fat cartridges (so the 7mm-Mega is his preference). What do you think about the 7mm-Mega versus the 28 Sherman Magnum?</p><p></p><p>I don't want three cartridges that basically mimic each other (eg. 7mm-Mega, 300 Win Mag, 28/30 Sherman Magnum). Since the 300 Win Mag is a given, I want a non-magnum cartridge and a magnum cartridge. That is how I ended up with the choices above: 7mm-Max vs 280 Sherman and 7mm-Mega vs 28 Sherman Magnum. I am fine with any permutation, although aesthetically I prefer the longer cartridges. The action lengths are set and I cannot change them - we will have long actions. I am a little worried about the short, fat cartridges for feeding in DBMs (again, not negotiable, since that is what I have). If you suggest a short, fat cartridge then, please, also suggest the magazine that will feed them in a DBM stock/chassis.</p><p></p><p>I apologize for the long post, but I hope this is an interesting question. To be clear, I WILL be making this choice in the next week and ordering accordingly, so it is not a theoretical question.</p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p>brittf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brittf, post: 2413628, member: 121792"] Need some help on selecting two cartridges. Rich has been generous with his time and has agreed to provide some more detailed information regarding his designs, so I don't want to bother him further. However, while I am waiting on data, I would like to seek your opinions on what Sherman cartridges to pursue. Hopefully, this will kick off a significant discussion. I am genuinely seeking input and not 'humble bragging' with the post. Here is the storyline so far... I am building 5 bolt action rifles, with the support and instruction of a well-known marksman and gunsmith. I am fortunate to be in that stage of my life where I have enough disposable income and time to pursue my hobbies. This is not an idle, theoretical debate - I AM building all 5 rifles; the only question is what they will be... [B]Rifle 1: [/B]This one is essentially complete. It is a Bat-M (long) action (single-shot) in a Cerus F-Class walnut stock and a Bartlein Heavy Varmint SS 29" barrel chambered in 6-Dasher. Although I am not, personally, currently able to shoot at the level, this rifle is CAPABLE of holding its own in international F-Open competitions. I can easily chamber another barrel (perhaps 300 WSM or 7 SAUM) for the rifle. [B]Rifle 2: [/B]I have all of the components, but I have not yet barreled or bedded the action. It is a Tuebor titanium (short) action (custom, single-shot) in an X-Ring cherry stock and a Bartlein Heavy Varmint SS 31" barrel to be chambered in .308 Winchester. This will be a competitive F/TR rifle in local, national, and international competitions. Again, I am personally not currently able to shoot at this level, but the rifle is CAPABLE of holding its own. This is pretty much dedicated to F-Class F/TR competition with the Berger 200.20x bullets. [B]Rifle 3:[/B] This one is not really up for debate, since I have invested a lot of money in components and reloading equipment/gear. It will be a Kelbly Prometheus (long) action in a Woox Furiosa chassis (Hawkins DBM with Win Mag magazine) and a Bartlein Carbon 29" barrel to be chambered in 300 Win Mag. The idea is to have a medium-weight rifle capable of hunting anything in North America and a 'fun' plinker for long-distance shooting. I already own everything, including lots of Peterson brass and good bullets' for this rifle. [B]Rifle 4: [/B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]This is one where I need help.[/COLOR] I want a high-end, lighter-weight hunting rifle that I can use in the Western US and Canada to hunt large game, primarily Elk and Moose. I also want it to be fun for long distance target shooting. It will be a Kelbly Nanook lightweight (long) action in a beautiful (relatively light) Cerus GT-Hybrid Maple stock (Badger DBM with appropriate magazine, up to CIP) and a carbon-wrapped (either Bartlein or Proof) 26" barrel. I am torn between the [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)][I]Sherman 7mm-Max or the 280 Sherman[/I][/COLOR] (based off the 280 AI cartridge). It is a long action, so the question of what magazine will work is paramount. My personal aesthetic preference is for the 280 Sherman (I like long and sleek more than short and fat) but my teacher is a SAUM guy (so the 7mm-Max is his preference). What do you think about the 7mm-Max versus the 280 Sherman vs just a straight-up 280 AI? [B]Rifle 5: [/B][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]I also need help here, although I am a bit more focused.[/COLOR] I want the 'ultimate' flat-shooting rifle for long-distance hunting and ELR target shooting. It will be a Kelbly Prometheus (long) action in a Woox Exactus chassis (Hawkins DBM with long-action or CIP magazine) and a Bartlein SS Sendero/Remington Varmint 29" barrel. I am torn between the [I][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]7mm-Mega[/COLOR][/I] (based on the 300 WSM cartridge) [I][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]or the 28 Sherman Magnum[/COLOR][/I] (based on the 300 PRC cartridge). The chassis and action are long (not up for debate) and my personal aesthetic preference is for the 28 Sherman Magnum but, again, my teacher is a fan of short and fat cartridges (so the 7mm-Mega is his preference). What do you think about the 7mm-Mega versus the 28 Sherman Magnum? I don't want three cartridges that basically mimic each other (eg. 7mm-Mega, 300 Win Mag, 28/30 Sherman Magnum). Since the 300 Win Mag is a given, I want a non-magnum cartridge and a magnum cartridge. That is how I ended up with the choices above: 7mm-Max vs 280 Sherman and 7mm-Mega vs 28 Sherman Magnum. I am fine with any permutation, although aesthetically I prefer the longer cartridges. The action lengths are set and I cannot change them - we will have long actions. I am a little worried about the short, fat cartridges for feeding in DBMs (again, not negotiable, since that is what I have). If you suggest a short, fat cartridge then, please, also suggest the magazine that will feed them in a DBM stock/chassis. I apologize for the long post, but I hope this is an interesting question. To be clear, I WILL be making this choice in the next week and ordering accordingly, so it is not a theoretical question. Regards, brittf [/QUOTE]
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