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The Basics, Starting Out
Scope height, cheek weld and eye relief
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<blockquote data-quote="406pat" data-source="post: 1916111" data-attributes="member: 13575"><p>I'll be a bit contrary here, I'm a big fan of mickey mousing... with big caveats! Try a cheap slip on pad, try some cheap high rings from Wal-Mart, try a duct tape cheek rest. All of these things are very low-cost-low risk ways of figuring out what works. Once you get the constraints right with the cheap crap, you can replace it with quality items that you are confident will work. I've made the mistake of buying a nice thing that I like and looks great, but doesn't quite fit. I've spent more time getting bad results from good equipment that doesn't fit trying to adapt to it than I care to admit. </p><p>Assuming a base level of functionality and reliability, fit is typically more important than quality.</p><p>I also disagree that scope height doesn't impact eye relief. The rifle and shooter are an interdependent system, change one thing and it impacts everything. Raise the scope up, now your cheek is floating. Raise the cheek up and your head angle has to be more upright, or the butt of the rifle has to be lower in your shoulder. If your head is more upright with your cheek in the same place your eye is further away from the scope. </p><p>Finally, if this is for hunting and field work, be careful increasing LOP. My general rule of thumb for a hunting gun is to go with the shortest LOP that works for prone, sitting, or braced standing. I missed a chance at a bull elk in the timber because the butt of my rifle hung up on my coat when I tried to bring it up while stalking. I had that rifle dialed in and fitted perfectly... for prone off a bipod in a t-shirt!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="406pat, post: 1916111, member: 13575"] I'll be a bit contrary here, I'm a big fan of mickey mousing... with big caveats! Try a cheap slip on pad, try some cheap high rings from Wal-Mart, try a duct tape cheek rest. All of these things are very low-cost-low risk ways of figuring out what works. Once you get the constraints right with the cheap crap, you can replace it with quality items that you are confident will work. I've made the mistake of buying a nice thing that I like and looks great, but doesn't quite fit. I've spent more time getting bad results from good equipment that doesn't fit trying to adapt to it than I care to admit. Assuming a base level of functionality and reliability, fit is typically more important than quality. I also disagree that scope height doesn't impact eye relief. The rifle and shooter are an interdependent system, change one thing and it impacts everything. Raise the scope up, now your cheek is floating. Raise the cheek up and your head angle has to be more upright, or the butt of the rifle has to be lower in your shoulder. If your head is more upright with your cheek in the same place your eye is further away from the scope. Finally, if this is for hunting and field work, be careful increasing LOP. My general rule of thumb for a hunting gun is to go with the shortest LOP that works for prone, sitting, or braced standing. I missed a chance at a bull elk in the timber because the butt of my rifle hung up on my coat when I tried to bring it up while stalking. I had that rifle dialed in and fitted perfectly... for prone off a bipod in a t-shirt! [/QUOTE]
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