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Scope for hunting Elk - budget $1,500 or less
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<blockquote data-quote="captainjoe" data-source="post: 507364" data-attributes="member: 33428"><p>Very helpful set of questions. I'll attempt to answer... warning, long rambling answer, so get yourself a cup of coffee! </p><p></p><p> I'm leaning towards MIL turrents and reticle. My only reservation is that I have worked in yards all of my life, but I think I can make the transition. </p><p>This is an area where I am less certain. I would like a reticle that gives me options when I have time to take up a spot and set up for a shot. I'm a hunter that does a lot of walking, but also spotting/sitting. So, in my type of hunting where I am working my way up through the timber to a favourite clearing, I need to be able to shoot quickly as well, so I don't want too much stuff in the view. Maybe I am making too big of a deal of this, but I think I would like something not too simple, but something that isn't too busy either. Again, my ranges are from 10 - 600+ yards. The upper end is where I want to push myself because of the meadows that I love to hike up to.</p><p></p><p>My ultimate and highest purpose is field hunting in timber and open areas, however, developing my skills at longer ranges is where I am going. So I need something that will push me on the target range and give me as many options as possible as I don't have the funds to buy a number of specialised rifles for different purposes. I know there are compromises with this, but I'm forced to try to have an all-rounder situation as much as possible... at least in the near term.</p><p></p><p> Agreed. I have read this more than once. You can have the best glass in the world, but if this isn't part of your scope, you only just have a nice viewing glass. </p><p>I prefer FFP.</p><p></p><p>I also want a scope that has a relatively low range, no more than 4.5x on the low end and 10x or even 15x or greater on the upper end would be nice.</p><p></p><p>A lighted recticle would be nice, but not required. (I think)</p><p></p><p>Some scopes that have caught my eye so far: </p><p></p><p><strong>Of course the NF NXS F1 3.5X15X50</strong></p><p></p><p>Pros:</p><p>- ticks all my boxes</p><p>- very durable</p><p>- good optics </p><p></p><p>Cons:</p><p>- might cause a divorce</p><p>- a bit heavy on weight</p><p></p><p><strong>Vortex Viper PST 4X16X50 FFP</strong></p><p></p><p>Pros:</p><p>- ticks all my boxes</p><p>- might save my marriage</p><p></p><p>Cons:</p><p>- relatively untried new product, but from a very good company</p><p>- some claim the optics are disappointing</p><p></p><p><strong>Bushnell Tactical Elite 6500 4.5X30X50</strong></p><p></p><p>Pros:</p><p>- Awesome power range</p><p>- Under $1K</p><p></p><p>Cons:</p><p>- Some claim the 6500's optics are inferior to the 4200</p><p>- No FFP</p><p></p><p>On paper, the Vortex is the best option, but the reports of the optics are concerning to me, particularly when it is compared to it's bigger brother the 6x24X50. I would go for this, but I think 6x is too much power if I get in close to elk. I am a bit off put with the Bushnell's lack of FFP and the optics have been questioned in comparison with the 4200. So at present this leaves me with risking optics on the Viper or the Bushnell, or risking my marriage with the Nightforce. I could probably put up with the weight of the Nightforce as I am fit, and the weight of my rifles have never bothered me as much as some of my friends.</p><p></p><p>I am open to any other apples to apples comparisons that anyone might have to offer. I am also open to any corrections of perceived flawed logic or conclusions, so please torpedo away! I'd rather hear them here, than spend a bunch of clams and be sorry.</p><p></p><p>I would also appreciate if anyone has any good books on long range shooting that they would recommend. Trolling the internet is fun and free, but sometimes time consuming and it would be nice to just sit down with a good book and read.</p><p></p><p>Thanks again for all the suggestions. This forum is paying off big time and I am glad that I found it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="captainjoe, post: 507364, member: 33428"] Very helpful set of questions. I'll attempt to answer... warning, long rambling answer, so get yourself a cup of coffee! I'm leaning towards MIL turrents and reticle. My only reservation is that I have worked in yards all of my life, but I think I can make the transition. This is an area where I am less certain. I would like a reticle that gives me options when I have time to take up a spot and set up for a shot. I'm a hunter that does a lot of walking, but also spotting/sitting. So, in my type of hunting where I am working my way up through the timber to a favourite clearing, I need to be able to shoot quickly as well, so I don't want too much stuff in the view. Maybe I am making too big of a deal of this, but I think I would like something not too simple, but something that isn't too busy either. Again, my ranges are from 10 - 600+ yards. The upper end is where I want to push myself because of the meadows that I love to hike up to. My ultimate and highest purpose is field hunting in timber and open areas, however, developing my skills at longer ranges is where I am going. So I need something that will push me on the target range and give me as many options as possible as I don't have the funds to buy a number of specialised rifles for different purposes. I know there are compromises with this, but I'm forced to try to have an all-rounder situation as much as possible... at least in the near term. Agreed. I have read this more than once. You can have the best glass in the world, but if this isn't part of your scope, you only just have a nice viewing glass. I prefer FFP. I also want a scope that has a relatively low range, no more than 4.5x on the low end and 10x or even 15x or greater on the upper end would be nice. A lighted recticle would be nice, but not required. (I think) Some scopes that have caught my eye so far: [B]Of course the NF NXS F1 3.5X15X50[/B] Pros: - ticks all my boxes - very durable - good optics Cons: - might cause a divorce - a bit heavy on weight [B]Vortex Viper PST 4X16X50 FFP[/B] Pros: - ticks all my boxes - might save my marriage Cons: - relatively untried new product, but from a very good company - some claim the optics are disappointing [B]Bushnell Tactical Elite 6500 4.5X30X50[/B] Pros: - Awesome power range - Under $1K Cons: - Some claim the 6500's optics are inferior to the 4200 - No FFP On paper, the Vortex is the best option, but the reports of the optics are concerning to me, particularly when it is compared to it's bigger brother the 6x24X50. I would go for this, but I think 6x is too much power if I get in close to elk. I am a bit off put with the Bushnell's lack of FFP and the optics have been questioned in comparison with the 4200. So at present this leaves me with risking optics on the Viper or the Bushnell, or risking my marriage with the Nightforce. I could probably put up with the weight of the Nightforce as I am fit, and the weight of my rifles have never bothered me as much as some of my friends. I am open to any other apples to apples comparisons that anyone might have to offer. I am also open to any corrections of perceived flawed logic or conclusions, so please torpedo away! I'd rather hear them here, than spend a bunch of clams and be sorry. I would also appreciate if anyone has any good books on long range shooting that they would recommend. Trolling the internet is fun and free, but sometimes time consuming and it would be nice to just sit down with a good book and read. Thanks again for all the suggestions. This forum is paying off big time and I am glad that I found it. [/QUOTE]
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