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<blockquote data-quote="Paladin300" data-source="post: 2961337" data-attributes="member: 115299"><p>I am going to put my foot in it this morning! Mainly because I think there are a few arm chair QBs on here that don't know dog turds from twinkies!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /> It is interesting to me that the same ones who talk about their Uber ultralight 5lbs rifle are the same ones arguing that they shoot a 3lbs NF Atacr??? When we are talking about NF reliability we are talking about the 5-25 Atacr, not the NXS, NX8, and for sure not the SHV. That scope is built for military applications as well as the 7-32 Leupold. Their heavy for a reason. In military grade optics their are three companies in the US that dominate the Market, NF, Leupold and S&B. The scopes are the PMII, Atacr, Mark 6 & 8 (these are now discontinued). Everyone of those are heavy and tough as nails. The ZCO is like Kahles and NF had a baby and the TT was a ground up development originally known as premier. I would throw the Vortex Razor and Mark 5 7-32 in that same mix. Those are really the best with the best support, but are any of them really practical for hunting application? There is a reason we have scopes like the Razor LHT and VX5 HTMR.</p><p></p><p>To show that different models from the same manufacturer can have varying reviews take the case of Kahles. The 5-25 is considered by some to be one of the best in the business, the 6-24 not so much or vise versa, but you get my point! Be careful bashing a brand because they produced one bad apple, by the same token beware of brand loyalty as well.</p><p></p><p>There are guys that show up at camp all the time with their Uber light ultra custom 7mm Uber mag mags and all the goods punch 5 pills through a single hole at a hundred and miss a give me buck at 400. Why? There dope was off. The rifle was to light for them to handle under stress. They miss judged the wind by 5-10 mph. And the conditions on the mountain were slightly different then those at camp. Add in fatigue if it has been a long day and bam! You got the recipe for a miss! News flash it wasn't the optic you chose it was the dope on the end of the rope!</p><p></p><p>Now consider the guy who only owns one gun, say an 06? It's an old 700 or M70 with a 30 year old Bushnell. Banged it all over the country and he never misses. It ain't the gun! Most guides will tell you they would rather have that guys show up any time over the other. You know why he is so successful. He knows and trust his equipment and he practices with it. Confidence and skill are 90% of the game, the equipment is the other 10.</p><p></p><p>Different scopes are built for different applications and the best for a particular application vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Pick the one that best suits your application, learn it and go hunt!<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😉" title="Winking face :wink:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" data-shortname=":wink:" /></p><p></p><p>I like the tests and love to read the data. It's fun and interesting because for ever one that places one at the top another places someone else. I tend to rely on my experience and what the pros use as well as consumer reports, but I keep come back to the tried and true. Have a great day friends!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paladin300, post: 2961337, member: 115299"] I am going to put my foot in it this morning! Mainly because I think there are a few arm chair QBs on here that don't know dog turds from twinkies!😂 It is interesting to me that the same ones who talk about their Uber ultralight 5lbs rifle are the same ones arguing that they shoot a 3lbs NF Atacr??? When we are talking about NF reliability we are talking about the 5-25 Atacr, not the NXS, NX8, and for sure not the SHV. That scope is built for military applications as well as the 7-32 Leupold. Their heavy for a reason. In military grade optics their are three companies in the US that dominate the Market, NF, Leupold and S&B. The scopes are the PMII, Atacr, Mark 6 & 8 (these are now discontinued). Everyone of those are heavy and tough as nails. The ZCO is like Kahles and NF had a baby and the TT was a ground up development originally known as premier. I would throw the Vortex Razor and Mark 5 7-32 in that same mix. Those are really the best with the best support, but are any of them really practical for hunting application? There is a reason we have scopes like the Razor LHT and VX5 HTMR. To show that different models from the same manufacturer can have varying reviews take the case of Kahles. The 5-25 is considered by some to be one of the best in the business, the 6-24 not so much or vise versa, but you get my point! Be careful bashing a brand because they produced one bad apple, by the same token beware of brand loyalty as well. There are guys that show up at camp all the time with their Uber light ultra custom 7mm Uber mag mags and all the goods punch 5 pills through a single hole at a hundred and miss a give me buck at 400. Why? There dope was off. The rifle was to light for them to handle under stress. They miss judged the wind by 5-10 mph. And the conditions on the mountain were slightly different then those at camp. Add in fatigue if it has been a long day and bam! You got the recipe for a miss! News flash it wasn't the optic you chose it was the dope on the end of the rope! Now consider the guy who only owns one gun, say an 06? It's an old 700 or M70 with a 30 year old Bushnell. Banged it all over the country and he never misses. It ain't the gun! Most guides will tell you they would rather have that guys show up any time over the other. You know why he is so successful. He knows and trust his equipment and he practices with it. Confidence and skill are 90% of the game, the equipment is the other 10. Different scopes are built for different applications and the best for a particular application vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Pick the one that best suits your application, learn it and go hunt!😉 I like the tests and love to read the data. It's fun and interesting because for ever one that places one at the top another places someone else. I tend to rely on my experience and what the pros use as well as consumer reports, but I keep come back to the tried and true. Have a great day friends! [/QUOTE]
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