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<blockquote data-quote="Sniper6" data-source="post: 2750335" data-attributes="member: 114948"><p>Thanks for all the input so far guys. The builds I am doing are a little unique. My friend and I have hunted together since high school in the deep forests of Northwest Montana . The majority of the shots we get in the black brush are 20 to 150 yards. Not quite a long range type of build, but I knew I would gain terrific in put from you guys. Climbing through the brush and thick downfall is hard. I'm sure FEENIX knows this. As we get older we are looking for a lighter, handier rifle. The requirements for the build are to be roughly 6 pounds in weight with scope, sling etc. With the shorter shots, max 300 yards, 2MOA is acceptable. The rifles I am working with are Savage Axis .308 cal with 22" barrels. Rifle weight alone is 6lbs 2oz. Not a bad weight to start with. Current plans and ideas to reduce weight are to cut and thread the barrel at 16.25 inches. That would remove 5.75" of barrel. Hopefully that will remove around 5oz. I will ad Anarchy Outdoors titanium muzzle brakes at 0.6oz. I plan on using Talley Lightweight Scope Rings. The set weighs 2.4oz. I believe I can remove 1oz of weight with a little milling and boring a couple longitudinal holes through the base part and a couple holes through the ring part. I saw a few people looking to reduce weight on this forum suggested using the SWFA 2.5X10 Ultralight Riflescope. It weighs in at 9.5oz. I don't have any experience with these scopes but I haven't seen any bad reviews either. Without removing any weight the rifle would weigh 6lbs 14.4oz.</p><p></p><p>Planned reductions in weight:</p><p></p><p>5.55" barrel = 5oz</p><p>Bases = 1oz</p><p></p><p>That gets me to 6lbs 8oz.</p><p></p><p>I have my own lathe, so I have considered making my own bolt body. I have never turned titanium though and I know it has it's own challenges. Some questions I have are:</p><p></p><p>How much stress is actually transmitted to the bolt body when a shot is fired in a Savage action? I know that Remington actions use the bolt handle as a third lug. Probably only for safety.</p><p></p><p>Is the bolt body hardened or is it "soft metal" compared to the lugs?</p><p></p><p>If there isn't any real pressure transmitted to the bolt body, could you make it out of aluminum?</p><p></p><p>Does anyone know of a shop that maybe interested in making the bolt body or firing pin from Titanium? </p><p></p><p>Thanks everyone</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sniper6, post: 2750335, member: 114948"] Thanks for all the input so far guys. The builds I am doing are a little unique. My friend and I have hunted together since high school in the deep forests of Northwest Montana . The majority of the shots we get in the black brush are 20 to 150 yards. Not quite a long range type of build, but I knew I would gain terrific in put from you guys. Climbing through the brush and thick downfall is hard. I'm sure FEENIX knows this. As we get older we are looking for a lighter, handier rifle. The requirements for the build are to be roughly 6 pounds in weight with scope, sling etc. With the shorter shots, max 300 yards, 2MOA is acceptable. The rifles I am working with are Savage Axis .308 cal with 22" barrels. Rifle weight alone is 6lbs 2oz. Not a bad weight to start with. Current plans and ideas to reduce weight are to cut and thread the barrel at 16.25 inches. That would remove 5.75" of barrel. Hopefully that will remove around 5oz. I will ad Anarchy Outdoors titanium muzzle brakes at 0.6oz. I plan on using Talley Lightweight Scope Rings. The set weighs 2.4oz. I believe I can remove 1oz of weight with a little milling and boring a couple longitudinal holes through the base part and a couple holes through the ring part. I saw a few people looking to reduce weight on this forum suggested using the SWFA 2.5X10 Ultralight Riflescope. It weighs in at 9.5oz. I don't have any experience with these scopes but I haven't seen any bad reviews either. Without removing any weight the rifle would weigh 6lbs 14.4oz. Planned reductions in weight: 5.55" barrel = 5oz Bases = 1oz That gets me to 6lbs 8oz. I have my own lathe, so I have considered making my own bolt body. I have never turned titanium though and I know it has it's own challenges. Some questions I have are: How much stress is actually transmitted to the bolt body when a shot is fired in a Savage action? I know that Remington actions use the bolt handle as a third lug. Probably only for safety. Is the bolt body hardened or is it "soft metal" compared to the lugs? If there isn't any real pressure transmitted to the bolt body, could you make it out of aluminum? Does anyone know of a shop that maybe interested in making the bolt body or firing pin from Titanium? Thanks everyone [/QUOTE]
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