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Savage B.Mag 17 Winchester Super Mag Teardown
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<blockquote data-quote="oregonreloader" data-source="post: 938738" data-attributes="member: 71958"><p>HntWhtTail...</p><p></p><p>I share your angst. Regarding the testimonials from the "my B.MAG won't shoot a group" crowd and the "my B.MAG shoots 1" groups all day long" folk, I think the source of the problem rests solely in the parts fabrication and assembly of the rifle at Savage. If the parts are spec'd for low cost (which, apparently they are) and if the assembly is geared for maximum output at minimum cost, then "quality" suffers. Not every rifle will be bad, but the variability in the production processes will allow more of the bad rifles through than if tight quality controls were applied at every stage of the production. Consider a Mercedes versus a Kia. There are probably lots of good Kias around and some bad Mercedes, but the likelihood of finding a bad Kia is much greater than finding a bad Mercedes. So we suffer and complain, looking for solutions....</p><p></p><p>Up until today, I had the potential opportunity to ask Savage to take my rifle back and refund my money. But as of today, I own it. I'd tried lots of ways to "float" the barrel as it is supposed to do without any visible mechanical mods, without success. Today I took a Dremel tool to the keel and ribs of the stock. I didn't have to do a lot of work to get it to float...there were just a few high spots, but they were significant. Now, I have at least 0.022" to 0.028" between the forend and the breech end of the barrel. I know that precisely because a two strips formed from a McDonald's French Fry container mic'd at 0.011" each and a sheet of copy paper mic'd at 0.006". Putting the two McD's strips together (o.022"), everything clears over the whole length. Adding the strip of copy paper just "barely" clears over all the previous high spots.</p><p></p><p>So, now...if only the stock will hold that clearance and if the weather ever turns good again, I'l give it another try.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oregonreloader, post: 938738, member: 71958"] HntWhtTail... I share your angst. Regarding the testimonials from the "my B.MAG won't shoot a group" crowd and the "my B.MAG shoots 1" groups all day long" folk, I think the source of the problem rests solely in the parts fabrication and assembly of the rifle at Savage. If the parts are spec'd for low cost (which, apparently they are) and if the assembly is geared for maximum output at minimum cost, then "quality" suffers. Not every rifle will be bad, but the variability in the production processes will allow more of the bad rifles through than if tight quality controls were applied at every stage of the production. Consider a Mercedes versus a Kia. There are probably lots of good Kias around and some bad Mercedes, but the likelihood of finding a bad Kia is much greater than finding a bad Mercedes. So we suffer and complain, looking for solutions.... Up until today, I had the potential opportunity to ask Savage to take my rifle back and refund my money. But as of today, I own it. I'd tried lots of ways to "float" the barrel as it is supposed to do without any visible mechanical mods, without success. Today I took a Dremel tool to the keel and ribs of the stock. I didn't have to do a lot of work to get it to float...there were just a few high spots, but they were significant. Now, I have at least 0.022" to 0.028" between the forend and the breech end of the barrel. I know that precisely because a two strips formed from a McDonald's French Fry container mic'd at 0.011" each and a sheet of copy paper mic'd at 0.006". Putting the two McD's strips together (o.022"), everything clears over the whole length. Adding the strip of copy paper just "barely" clears over all the previous high spots. So, now...if only the stock will hold that clearance and if the weather ever turns good again, I'l give it another try. [/QUOTE]
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