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Savage 111 LRH 6.5-284 Loading Questions
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<blockquote data-quote="DLFant" data-source="post: 996273" data-attributes="member: 31772"><p>Brent </p><p>I am using federal 210. 52.9 grains Berger 140 VLD Target or hunting (both are shooting the same) all of the powder I have is 4831 regular not SC. I had several 1 pounders and an 8 pounder, one of the first things I did was mix and blend all of the powder together so would have a more consistent result. Rather than hoping it would be the same from lot to lot. I turned the necks. I lube the necks with graphite and #8shot. I am setting 5 thousandths off the lands using a micrometer seating die. I am using a concentricity tool I work on them until I have no more than 2 thousandths run out I seat a second time after adjusting for the run out (because i have found it often moves the seating depth). I do not weigh or sort bullets or brass. I tried it and found little to no improvement. I did not have an OH WOW moment I just found the things mentioned helped a little here and there a little. One of the main things I found was to do my testing at 2 or 3 hundred yards rather than 100 because the 140's won't stabilize that quick and you will pull your hair out trying to get them to group that close; Lloyd Hill told me that he develops all his load data at 500 yards. John Porter at best of the west basically told me the same when I was I there in July. </p><p></p><p>Greyfox 3005 seems a bit high for all that I have read. Now when I say 22 inch I am not counting the break that is 2 more. I use the shooter app I have it on my phone. The trick I use a good friend showed me was to shoot a couple groups at known distance then adjust the velocity data in your ballistic program to match. Rather than the other way around, because after all what are you going to go with what it says or what the gun shoots? That saves a lot of wasted time and ammo. Once I did that it was right on at any distance i have tried. I am using a Huskemaw scope with 1/3 click moa turret the drop data was </p><p>200 yard zero, </p><p>300 yard's 5 clicks up, </p><p>400 yard's 11 clicks up,</p><p> 500 yard's 19 clicks up, </p><p>594 yard's 26 clicks up, </p><p>722 yard's 38 clicks up, temp was 75 altitude was 1060. </p><p> BTW the vel. I had to enter in the program was 3135 but it works all the way thru I also shot at 1204 a few weeks back and that number worked as well it was 90 clicks up. We were shooting at a 9 inch by 12 inch gong I missed on the first shot by about one inch then hit on the second try. All in all I had 7 hits out of 12</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps </p><p></p><p>DL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DLFant, post: 996273, member: 31772"] Brent I am using federal 210. 52.9 grains Berger 140 VLD Target or hunting (both are shooting the same) all of the powder I have is 4831 regular not SC. I had several 1 pounders and an 8 pounder, one of the first things I did was mix and blend all of the powder together so would have a more consistent result. Rather than hoping it would be the same from lot to lot. I turned the necks. I lube the necks with graphite and #8shot. I am setting 5 thousandths off the lands using a micrometer seating die. I am using a concentricity tool I work on them until I have no more than 2 thousandths run out I seat a second time after adjusting for the run out (because i have found it often moves the seating depth). I do not weigh or sort bullets or brass. I tried it and found little to no improvement. I did not have an OH WOW moment I just found the things mentioned helped a little here and there a little. One of the main things I found was to do my testing at 2 or 3 hundred yards rather than 100 because the 140’s won't stabilize that quick and you will pull your hair out trying to get them to group that close; Lloyd Hill told me that he develops all his load data at 500 yards. John Porter at best of the west basically told me the same when I was I there in July. Greyfox 3005 seems a bit high for all that I have read. Now when I say 22 inch I am not counting the break that is 2 more. I use the shooter app I have it on my phone. The trick I use a good friend showed me was to shoot a couple groups at known distance then adjust the velocity data in your ballistic program to match. Rather than the other way around, because after all what are you going to go with what it says or what the gun shoots? That saves a lot of wasted time and ammo. Once I did that it was right on at any distance i have tried. I am using a Huskemaw scope with 1/3 click moa turret the drop data was 200 yard zero, 300 yard's 5 clicks up, 400 yard's 11 clicks up, 500 yard's 19 clicks up, 594 yard's 26 clicks up, 722 yard's 38 clicks up, temp was 75 altitude was 1060. BTW the vel. I had to enter in the program was 3135 but it works all the way thru I also shot at 1204 a few weeks back and that number worked as well it was 90 clicks up. We were shooting at a 9 inch by 12 inch gong I missed on the first shot by about one inch then hit on the second try. All in all I had 7 hits out of 12 Hope this helps DL [/QUOTE]
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