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<blockquote data-quote="ShootnMathews" data-source="post: 988213" data-attributes="member: 59915">Brent. When I first started loading for this gun I did not have all the comparator gauges. In July this year I got the hornady headspace and bullet comparator kits. I had notice for a while that some cases seemed to chamber tighter than others but had no way to measure why. I had my die adjusted down until the die touched the shell holder. After getting the comparator kit I compared a sized case to a fired case and they measured the same. So I adjusted my die down farther and cammed over pretty stiff on it and now I get a bump of .0025&quot; - .003&quot;. Which is good in my book. I have tried load working the bergers again after finding this and still have the flyer problem.&nbsp; It is not always the third shot. It varies on all three shots out of a 3 shot group. Maybe one out of ten groups will be a nice clover leaf or sometimes a one holer. But the other 8 - 9 groups will be 2 in he same hole or touching and the 3 rd 1&quot; - 2&quot; away. And generally in the same direction according to load. For instance if I shoot 5 groups of the same charge weight the flyer will be in the same direction each group.&nbsp; If I change the charge the flyer position will change. Same with depth. But again if I load several groups identical the flyer from each group will land in almost the same spot.&nbsp; It&#039;s very weird and frustrating.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ShootnMathews, post: 988213, member: 59915"] Brent. When I first started loading for this gun I did not have all the comparator gauges. In July this year I got the hornady headspace and bullet comparator kits. I had notice for a while that some cases seemed to chamber tighter than others but had no way to measure why. I had my die adjusted down until the die touched the shell holder. After getting the comparator kit I compared a sized case to a fired case and they measured the same. So I adjusted my die down farther and cammed over pretty stiff on it and now I get a bump of .0025" - .003". Which is good in my book. I have tried load working the bergers again after finding this and still have the flyer problem. It is not always the third shot. It varies on all three shots out of a 3 shot group. Maybe one out of ten groups will be a nice clover leaf or sometimes a one holer. But the other 8 - 9 groups will be 2 in he same hole or touching and the 3 rd 1" - 2" away. And generally in the same direction according to load. For instance if I shoot 5 groups of the same charge weight the flyer will be in the same direction each group. If I change the charge the flyer position will change. Same with depth. But again if I load several groups identical the flyer from each group will land in almost the same spot. It's very weird and frustrating. [/QUOTE]

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