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<blockquote data-quote="QuietTexan" data-source="post: 2447733" data-attributes="member: 116181"><p>And after listing cons of salt bath, they say this:</p><p></p><p>I don't buy into the notion that AMP is being overly critical of the salt bath method. They seemed to rationally lay out how one processes doesn't achieve their goals, and offered a viable alternative to their product to achieve that goal.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They did do salt bath dips at 8 seconds and 20 seconds. The results from that is the core of their point regarding salt bath annealing in bottleneck cases.</p><p></p><p>You have to remember they're coming from the point that they want 100-120 HV in the shoulder AND NECK of the case. Salt bath doesn't get a bottleneck case neck to to 100HV. If 8 and 20 seconds didn't get it there, 11 seconds wouldn't either because the case isn't softening and re-hardening at different points in the dip, it's only getting progressively softer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think it's a smear campaign, just a bunch of loud Chevy vs Ford supporters on the internet BS-ing and yelling over more meaningful technical discussion between people who know what's actually going on. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="😂" title="Face with tears of joy :joy:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f602.png" data-shortname=":joy:" /> We know that both work, in different ways, and neither is designed to meet all of the goals possible here.</p><p></p><p>I'll be the first to say that salt bath should reduce the split neck and shoulder problems that come with fireforming shoulders. Should also anneal to the point that split necks in general go away. Also seems a lot easier than flame annealing honestly. I've watched BB's video a half dozen times and flame isn't complicated at all, but and at the end of it I don't want to be that manually involved in the process to be watching for a color change or anything like that, I'd find a way to screw up the cases the same way I could crack an anvil.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="QuietTexan, post: 2447733, member: 116181"] And after listing cons of salt bath, they say this: I don't buy into the notion that AMP is being overly critical of the salt bath method. They seemed to rationally lay out how one processes doesn't achieve their goals, and offered a viable alternative to their product to achieve that goal. They did do salt bath dips at 8 seconds and 20 seconds. The results from that is the core of their point regarding salt bath annealing in bottleneck cases. You have to remember they're coming from the point that they want 100-120 HV in the shoulder AND NECK of the case. Salt bath doesn't get a bottleneck case neck to to 100HV. If 8 and 20 seconds didn't get it there, 11 seconds wouldn't either because the case isn't softening and re-hardening at different points in the dip, it's only getting progressively softer. I don't think it's a smear campaign, just a bunch of loud Chevy vs Ford supporters on the internet BS-ing and yelling over more meaningful technical discussion between people who know what's actually going on. 😂 We know that both work, in different ways, and neither is designed to meet all of the goals possible here. I'll be the first to say that salt bath should reduce the split neck and shoulder problems that come with fireforming shoulders. Should also anneal to the point that split necks in general go away. Also seems a lot easier than flame annealing honestly. I've watched BB's video a half dozen times and flame isn't complicated at all, but and at the end of it I don't want to be that manually involved in the process to be watching for a color change or anything like that, I'd find a way to screw up the cases the same way I could crack an anvil. [/QUOTE]
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