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Sako 85 Longrange .338lm Eliminator3 RFI
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<blockquote data-quote="majog" data-source="post: 3026770" data-attributes="member: 40808"><p>First off, I have lived and hunted in Europe for over 15 years. Let me start by saying that as far as hunting goes there is very little terrain suited for long range hunting that I have run into. The longest shot I pulled in Europe was about 600 mtrs. I also own a 338 Lapua and choose not to hunt with it as I have never encountered terrain where the weight to use ratio was worth schlepping it. To your questions:</p><p></p><p>While I have shot FMJ in my lapua, I would never use FMJ for hunting. You will never get bullet expansion you want when hunting. </p><p></p><p>Burris Elliminator. If I was shooting long range I would definitely not use a Burris. Like the other thread said, "way to many other good choices". My guns shooting 1000 mtrs plus all have Nightforce, Schmitt & Bender, Zeiss, Swarovski, Vortex scopes. One of the things I learned in my European hunting courses is that you throw money into glass first then the gun.</p><p></p><p>Distance to practice. As I learned in Africa you alway practice at the same distances you think you will be shooting or hunting. This varyies much to much by the area you are hunting. Most of the area I hunted in Germany for instance is dense forest. My hunting in England was on more open terrain but still way under 500 meters. In the alps I never had a shot over 400 meters. </p><p></p><p>Not sure what you mean by self loading. </p><p></p><p>As to other advice not sure where you are going with this thread. You need to be a bit more specific as to what game you will be going after and what country you will be trying to hunt in. Lots of regulations, gun/ammo limitations, and coordination that needs to be had. If you are using a guide or professional hunter they will have all the information you need along with advice. If you are trying to go on your own, you need to realize that there is almost no public land or public hunting areas in Europe.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="majog, post: 3026770, member: 40808"] First off, I have lived and hunted in Europe for over 15 years. Let me start by saying that as far as hunting goes there is very little terrain suited for long range hunting that I have run into. The longest shot I pulled in Europe was about 600 mtrs. I also own a 338 Lapua and choose not to hunt with it as I have never encountered terrain where the weight to use ratio was worth schlepping it. To your questions: While I have shot FMJ in my lapua, I would never use FMJ for hunting. You will never get bullet expansion you want when hunting. Burris Elliminator. If I was shooting long range I would definitely not use a Burris. Like the other thread said, "way to many other good choices". My guns shooting 1000 mtrs plus all have Nightforce, Schmitt & Bender, Zeiss, Swarovski, Vortex scopes. One of the things I learned in my European hunting courses is that you throw money into glass first then the gun. Distance to practice. As I learned in Africa you alway practice at the same distances you think you will be shooting or hunting. This varyies much to much by the area you are hunting. Most of the area I hunted in Germany for instance is dense forest. My hunting in England was on more open terrain but still way under 500 meters. In the alps I never had a shot over 400 meters. Not sure what you mean by self loading. As to other advice not sure where you are going with this thread. You need to be a bit more specific as to what game you will be going after and what country you will be trying to hunt in. Lots of regulations, gun/ammo limitations, and coordination that needs to be had. If you are using a guide or professional hunter they will have all the information you need along with advice. If you are trying to go on your own, you need to realize that there is almost no public land or public hunting areas in Europe. [/QUOTE]
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