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Repealing the Second Amendment of the Bill of Rights
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<blockquote data-quote="left handed gun" data-source="post: 1426704" data-attributes="member: 75858"><p>Even for a 97 year old retired justice, this is through the looking glass.</p><p></p><p>I've studied a fair amount of American history. I can't come up with any previous, serious effort to do away with one of the first eight amendments in the Bill of Rights, i.e. freedom of speech and religion, bearing arms, illegal search and seizures, rights against self incrimination, rights against cruel and unusual punishment (NOT against merely capital punishment--more like drawing and quartering, burning at the stake and so forth), rights to jury trials and against excessive bail. Even some of the gun control cheerleaders admitted Stevens didn't help their cause any.</p><p></p><p>If anyone knows of some previous figure coming out for repeal of Amendments 1-8 of the bill of rights, I'd be interested to hear who and what was the context. I do know Lincoln suspended habeas corpus for a while during the Civil War, but he invoked the emergency of what was the country's bloodiest war. And he caught flak for it.</p><p></p><p>Bill of Rights was originally included because many people did not like the idea of a stronger central government, with a president, executive branch and so forth. So the first ten amendments were basically put in as checks on central power. And had the Bill of Rights NOT been included, the constitution would have been a deal killer, to put it bluntly.</p><p></p><p>The media is putting an all out blitz behind this like nothing I've seen. I was alive when the 1968 gun control acts came out, but too young to vote or follow much of that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="left handed gun, post: 1426704, member: 75858"] Even for a 97 year old retired justice, this is through the looking glass. I've studied a fair amount of American history. I can't come up with any previous, serious effort to do away with one of the first eight amendments in the Bill of Rights, i.e. freedom of speech and religion, bearing arms, illegal search and seizures, rights against self incrimination, rights against cruel and unusual punishment (NOT against merely capital punishment--more like drawing and quartering, burning at the stake and so forth), rights to jury trials and against excessive bail. Even some of the gun control cheerleaders admitted Stevens didn't help their cause any. If anyone knows of some previous figure coming out for repeal of Amendments 1-8 of the bill of rights, I'd be interested to hear who and what was the context. I do know Lincoln suspended habeas corpus for a while during the Civil War, but he invoked the emergency of what was the country's bloodiest war. And he caught flak for it. Bill of Rights was originally included because many people did not like the idea of a stronger central government, with a president, executive branch and so forth. So the first ten amendments were basically put in as checks on central power. And had the Bill of Rights NOT been included, the constitution would have been a deal killer, to put it bluntly. The media is putting an all out blitz behind this like nothing I've seen. I was alive when the 1968 gun control acts came out, but too young to vote or follow much of that. [/QUOTE]
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