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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1451912" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>As far as Blackhorn 209, Remington WILL NOT warrant the rifle at all if you shoot BH209 through the rifle. Remington started replacing breech plugs one right after the other and one of the issues was the use of BH209 and its nitrocellulose properties, the other improper head spacing and PP brass primer carriers. So the easiest and fastest thing was to stop warranting rifles shot with BH. (see post #1) I've been telling owners not to use BH since RW came out saying it was ok and everyone started doing it, even though the Remington manual states different.</p><p></p><p>If you shoot BH, regardless of the amount of charge used and gas cut the breech plug, Remington is most likely going to tell you you're on your own and charge you. If you don't shoot the recommended propellant listed in the Remington manual, they're not going to warrant the rifle from my understanding.</p><p></p><p>I personally know and am friends with Ken Johnston, the person who invented the breech plug and used in his muzzleloaders. Remington wanted a long range muzzleloader and purchased the rights to use his breech plug and tried to redesign it slightly, by making it harder and changed the threads per inch. These changes make it easier to remove the breech plug. However, head space, PP brass primer carriers and BH will still gas cut the hardened nipples. </p><p></p><p>You have a pure RACE HORSE, but with the breech plug you currently have, its nothing more than a pony. I HIGHLY... HIGHLY... recommend you consider replacing your original breech plug with the newly designed ASG plug. It'll be the last breech plug you'll need, it won't gas cut and you'll be able to shoot heavy charges of BH209 in the rifle without worry. I'll just tell you this, guys that own a RUM and don't get the modification, are doing themselves a HUGE INJUSTICE. Of course there's an initial cost, but in the long run, it can save you thousands, depending on how much you shoot.</p><p></p><p>Now this I'll also tell you..... I shoot the daddy of the RUM, the BP Xpress from Ultimate Firearms Inc. Its an extremely accurate long range muzzleloader, however its not as great as it could be...….. yet <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> ASG has developed a replacement breech plug for the UF Inc. rifles and I'm sending mine out to Luke this week for modification and can't hardly wait. I'm tired of all the manual work, brass cases leaking, gas cut breech plugs and over expensive propellant. I can shoot unimaginable groups on a good day with 3 - T7M pellets. For $27 a box, I get 16 shots. I've been waiting for this change for the last couple years and its finally here.</p><p>Do yourself the best favor you can do for that rifle. Have Luke at ASG replace that breech plug and be done with problems.</p><p><a href="http://arrowheadsporting.com/" target="_blank">http://arrowheadsporting.com/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1451912, member: 33046"] As far as Blackhorn 209, Remington WILL NOT warrant the rifle at all if you shoot BH209 through the rifle. Remington started replacing breech plugs one right after the other and one of the issues was the use of BH209 and its nitrocellulose properties, the other improper head spacing and PP brass primer carriers. So the easiest and fastest thing was to stop warranting rifles shot with BH. (see post #1) I've been telling owners not to use BH since RW came out saying it was ok and everyone started doing it, even though the Remington manual states different. If you shoot BH, regardless of the amount of charge used and gas cut the breech plug, Remington is most likely going to tell you you're on your own and charge you. If you don't shoot the recommended propellant listed in the Remington manual, they're not going to warrant the rifle from my understanding. I personally know and am friends with Ken Johnston, the person who invented the breech plug and used in his muzzleloaders. Remington wanted a long range muzzleloader and purchased the rights to use his breech plug and tried to redesign it slightly, by making it harder and changed the threads per inch. These changes make it easier to remove the breech plug. However, head space, PP brass primer carriers and BH will still gas cut the hardened nipples. You have a pure RACE HORSE, but with the breech plug you currently have, its nothing more than a pony. I HIGHLY... HIGHLY... recommend you consider replacing your original breech plug with the newly designed ASG plug. It'll be the last breech plug you'll need, it won't gas cut and you'll be able to shoot heavy charges of BH209 in the rifle without worry. I'll just tell you this, guys that own a RUM and don't get the modification, are doing themselves a HUGE INJUSTICE. Of course there's an initial cost, but in the long run, it can save you thousands, depending on how much you shoot. Now this I'll also tell you..... I shoot the daddy of the RUM, the BP Xpress from Ultimate Firearms Inc. Its an extremely accurate long range muzzleloader, however its not as great as it could be...….. yet ;) ASG has developed a replacement breech plug for the UF Inc. rifles and I'm sending mine out to Luke this week for modification and can't hardly wait. I'm tired of all the manual work, brass cases leaking, gas cut breech plugs and over expensive propellant. I can shoot unimaginable groups on a good day with 3 - T7M pellets. For $27 a box, I get 16 shots. I've been waiting for this change for the last couple years and its finally here. Do yourself the best favor you can do for that rifle. Have Luke at ASG replace that breech plug and be done with problems. [URL]http://arrowheadsporting.com/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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