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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 623714" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>you got off easy with your .223! I bought a new 700VS a few years back, and it literally was a four and a quarter inch gun with hand loads! I worked with it for about three weeks, and some guys I know said to let them see if they could make it shoot. A couple weeks later they called to ask how I got it to shoot four inch groups.</p><p> </p><p>A buddy of mine (a gunsmith) and I tore the gun down to see what was goung on inside the stock. The stock was strait, but the aluminum bedding block was junk. We did a chamber cast and I marked the bad plces in the barrel. The chamer was cut about .007" off center and at roughly a seven degree angle to the barrel. The chamber was completely junk, and the barrel wasn't much better. We chucked the reciever up in a lathe and did a look see. It actually wasn't all that bad, but with a couple of exceptions. The barrel thread had a lot of taper cut in it, but otherwise was very strait. The bolt was seating on a very large burr. The bolt face was within .0005" or maybe even less. The shoulder was out about .0015". I squared up the shoulder and deburred it at the sametime. Then recut the threads to where they ended up being about .015" oversize. The barrel ended up having 1.5" (roughly) cut off the big end and 3.5" off the muzzel. The throat was so bad that you tore up patches, and the muzzel wasn't a lot better. I ended up with a 20" barrel. I ended up relieving for aluminum in the forend, and then pillar bedding right thru the aluminum. </p><p> </p><p>Assembled the rifle, and did a few more bedding tweeks (recoil lug area mostly). The rifle shot 3/4" the first group. But was a bear to shoot. The trigger would try to freeze up during travel. Doug looked it over and did some polishing here and there. Felt better, but still locked up on occassion. Another guy looked at it and said it was a "J Lock", and throw it away. I was given a 1978 trigger that Ferris had rebuilt. Gun is shooting .45" groups. I lost about 75 fps, and tightened my groups by almost four inches. You kinda expect a rifle to shoot fairly well out of the box (say an inch for a .223), and really don't need to have to rebuild the thing. Now I have a 541 that's driving me nuts, and honestly I can't figure out where to start with it. Yet I have another 541 that will shoot a minute of angle at 100 yards without all that much effort. So here we go again</p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 623714, member: 25383"] you got off easy with your .223! I bought a new 700VS a few years back, and it literally was a four and a quarter inch gun with hand loads! I worked with it for about three weeks, and some guys I know said to let them see if they could make it shoot. A couple weeks later they called to ask how I got it to shoot four inch groups. A buddy of mine (a gunsmith) and I tore the gun down to see what was goung on inside the stock. The stock was strait, but the aluminum bedding block was junk. We did a chamber cast and I marked the bad plces in the barrel. The chamer was cut about .007" off center and at roughly a seven degree angle to the barrel. The chamber was completely junk, and the barrel wasn't much better. We chucked the reciever up in a lathe and did a look see. It actually wasn't all that bad, but with a couple of exceptions. The barrel thread had a lot of taper cut in it, but otherwise was very strait. The bolt was seating on a very large burr. The bolt face was within .0005" or maybe even less. The shoulder was out about .0015". I squared up the shoulder and deburred it at the sametime. Then recut the threads to where they ended up being about .015" oversize. The barrel ended up having 1.5" (roughly) cut off the big end and 3.5" off the muzzel. The throat was so bad that you tore up patches, and the muzzel wasn't a lot better. I ended up with a 20" barrel. I ended up relieving for aluminum in the forend, and then pillar bedding right thru the aluminum. Assembled the rifle, and did a few more bedding tweeks (recoil lug area mostly). The rifle shot 3/4" the first group. But was a bear to shoot. The trigger would try to freeze up during travel. Doug looked it over and did some polishing here and there. Felt better, but still locked up on occassion. Another guy looked at it and said it was a "J Lock", and throw it away. I was given a 1978 trigger that Ferris had rebuilt. Gun is shooting .45" groups. I lost about 75 fps, and tightened my groups by almost four inches. You kinda expect a rifle to shoot fairly well out of the box (say an inch for a .223), and really don't need to have to rebuild the thing. Now I have a 541 that's driving me nuts, and honestly I can't figure out where to start with it. Yet I have another 541 that will shoot a minute of angle at 100 yards without all that much effort. So here we go again gary [/QUOTE]
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