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<blockquote data-quote="ENCORE" data-source="post: 1106062" data-attributes="member: 33046"><p>Don't want to hi-jack your Rem700ml thread, but since you asked.</p><p></p><p>I've owned Encores and Pro Hunters since they came out in, I believe "97". Each one of them have been extremely accurate rifles. I sold my last just after going custom and the person who bought it, shot a really nice 3/4" group at 100yds before handing me the cash. There were a couple bullets left and I told him the rifle would shoot better than 3/4" at 100yds, then asked if he minded me shooting HIS new rifle. It shot 3/8" on a new target, which he took.</p><p></p><p>I've never found that any of my Encore platform rifles were to fussy. In both the Encore and Pro Hunters, my loads were ALWAYS 110grs BH209 and a Barnes 250gr TMZ bullet. I shot CCI209M primers, cleaning the flash channel after around every 10 shots. Never swabbed the barrel.</p><p></p><p>What I did know with each and every rifle, they shot and grouped better AFTER being fouled with 2 shots. When BH209 hit the market, that really served my purpose well.</p><p></p><p>I've had a number of shooters with Encores and Pro Hunters shoot with me on my range. Many that "thought" they had a rifle with a problem, really turned out to be the shooter themselves. NOT saying this is your case. I even had the U.S. Coast Guard Commander - Lake Huron Group here shooting his Encore, which according to him, wouldn't shoot worth a darn. Before he left that day, he was shooting 1" or less groups consistently. I actually heard from him, that he took 2 nice bucks with it that fall....</p><p></p><p>Now I've always "tricked out" the frames. I was never satisfied with the trigger pull and a few other things that make them shoot better. Your best possible information you can find is here: <a href="http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/" target="_blank">Home of TC Performance</a></p><p></p><p>Take a stock Encore platform rifle and make about $40 worth of changes and a little time, you can make it feel and shoot like a completely different rifle. I do not care for the adjustable hinge pins some sell. I prefer a ridged pin.....</p><p></p><p>Things I do to Encore platform rifles:</p><p></p><p>Replace the factory hammer spring (30#) with a Bellm 51# spring</p><p>Replace the factory firing pin spring with a Bellm HD spring</p><p>Replace the factory locking bolt spring with a Bellm HD spring</p><p>Replace the factory heavy trigger spring with a Bellm trigger spring (I like 2#)</p><p>Hone and polish the sear smooth to eliminate any felt creep</p><p></p><p>IF you're good with small parts, this can all be done yourself. Mike now has an FFL and is doing trigger jobs himself..... an option.</p><p></p><p>If you're shooting loose propellant, especially BH209, seat your bullet tight on the propellant. I do it using two hands with a hard "thump". Actual force measurements indicate my seating force on BH209 is 106#.</p><p></p><p>Good quality scope, tight rings and mounts makes them awesome rifles for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ENCORE, post: 1106062, member: 33046"] Don't want to hi-jack your Rem700ml thread, but since you asked. I've owned Encores and Pro Hunters since they came out in, I believe "97". Each one of them have been extremely accurate rifles. I sold my last just after going custom and the person who bought it, shot a really nice 3/4" group at 100yds before handing me the cash. There were a couple bullets left and I told him the rifle would shoot better than 3/4" at 100yds, then asked if he minded me shooting HIS new rifle. It shot 3/8" on a new target, which he took. I've never found that any of my Encore platform rifles were to fussy. In both the Encore and Pro Hunters, my loads were ALWAYS 110grs BH209 and a Barnes 250gr TMZ bullet. I shot CCI209M primers, cleaning the flash channel after around every 10 shots. Never swabbed the barrel. What I did know with each and every rifle, they shot and grouped better AFTER being fouled with 2 shots. When BH209 hit the market, that really served my purpose well. I've had a number of shooters with Encores and Pro Hunters shoot with me on my range. Many that "thought" they had a rifle with a problem, really turned out to be the shooter themselves. NOT saying this is your case. I even had the U.S. Coast Guard Commander - Lake Huron Group here shooting his Encore, which according to him, wouldn't shoot worth a darn. Before he left that day, he was shooting 1" or less groups consistently. I actually heard from him, that he took 2 nice bucks with it that fall.... Now I've always "tricked out" the frames. I was never satisfied with the trigger pull and a few other things that make them shoot better. Your best possible information you can find is here: [url=http://www.bellmtcs.com/store/]Home of TC Performance[/url] Take a stock Encore platform rifle and make about $40 worth of changes and a little time, you can make it feel and shoot like a completely different rifle. I do not care for the adjustable hinge pins some sell. I prefer a ridged pin..... Things I do to Encore platform rifles: Replace the factory hammer spring (30#) with a Bellm 51# spring Replace the factory firing pin spring with a Bellm HD spring Replace the factory locking bolt spring with a Bellm HD spring Replace the factory heavy trigger spring with a Bellm trigger spring (I like 2#) Hone and polish the sear smooth to eliminate any felt creep IF you're good with small parts, this can all be done yourself. Mike now has an FFL and is doing trigger jobs himself..... an option. If you're shooting loose propellant, especially BH209, seat your bullet tight on the propellant. I do it using two hands with a hard "thump". Actual force measurements indicate my seating force on BH209 is 106#. Good quality scope, tight rings and mounts makes them awesome rifles for me. [/QUOTE]
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