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<blockquote data-quote="Tex_Hunter" data-source="post: 2291093" data-attributes="member: 31749"><p>This will get said hundreds of times but then in a month there will be another thread with the same subject, but will say it again, if you are considering a factory action and not wanting to invest in any smith work then maybe go with a Savage or something that takes pre-fits so at least your arent sinking a bunch of money into it -BUT- if you were at all planning to spend any money at all on gunsmith work then just save yourself the headache/time and get a custom action. I feel like people say this till they are blue in the face but then without fail every few months someone will link to a Brownells add showing dirt cheap Remington actions asking if its a good deal or not despite being proven time and again that its just throwing good money after bad. Are there shops out there that will just clean up the front ring and lap the lugs for $150? Sure, but that's not even remotely comparable to even a basic/entry level custom action. If you already have the action and it has sentimental value and/or it already has some work done to it, then by all means go ahead, but I cant even begin to comprehend going out and buying a factory action to start from scratch on; you are tripping over a dollar to try and pick up a dime here. No amount of autistic shrieking or "wElL AcTchUaLLy" will make this any less true.</p><p></p><p>There are several great options out there in the sub $1000 space that are in the same $ ballpark as a blueprinted Remington once you account for the cost of buying a donor action and are going to be way better out of the box than the Remington ever will be no matter how much machine time you throw at it. Some of these even take shouldered pre-fits so you avoid having a barrel nut and can still install your own barrels saving further time and money.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure I am forgetting others, but a good starting point would be:</p><p>- Big Horn Origin</p><p>- Kelbly Atlas</p><p>- Defiance Tenacity <- this one doesn't take pre-fits I don't think, but lots of places sell complete barreled actions</p><p></p><p>If you want something that's even better and not a lot more expensive then take a look at:</p><p>- Defiance Ruckus</p><p>- Big Horn TL3</p><p>- Impact 737r/787r</p><p></p><p>Case in point: I had a Bergara B14 re-barreled recently, smith cleaned up the receiver face and lapped the lugs only, $375 or so which included chambering the barrel (based on his price menu probably $100-150 of that went into the work on the action). The rifle shoots great, but compare it to my full custom built on a Stiller Tac-30 (action was $1050) and it isn't close either on fit/finish or accuracy. I purchased the donor rifle for $615, I had to have a bushing installed in the bolt face because I was getting excessive primer cratering (Remingtons have this problem too), so there's $150 or so, then $100-150 for the receiver work, the smith re-used the factory recoil lug so I'm at $0 there. All in I am at $800-850 for a factory action that is not fully blueprinted, factory recoil lug, and doesn't have anything else such as a scope rail, tactical bolt knob, pinned/integral recoil lug etc; things that even the most basic custom actions include. All while being within $200 of the Stiller on my full custom (which comes with a fluted bolt, tactical bolt knob, pinned recoil lug, and a 20MOA scope rail). I'd have been well over $1000 on my Bergara if I made it comparable to the Stiller. It works for the intended purpose of the rifle, but if did it all over again I should honestly have just sold the Bergara for $500 and then drop $900 on something like a Defiance Tenacity or an Origin and been time and money ahead for a higher quality finished rifle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tex_Hunter, post: 2291093, member: 31749"] This will get said hundreds of times but then in a month there will be another thread with the same subject, but will say it again, if you are considering a factory action and not wanting to invest in any smith work then maybe go with a Savage or something that takes pre-fits so at least your arent sinking a bunch of money into it -BUT- if you were at all planning to spend any money at all on gunsmith work then just save yourself the headache/time and get a custom action. I feel like people say this till they are blue in the face but then without fail every few months someone will link to a Brownells add showing dirt cheap Remington actions asking if its a good deal or not despite being proven time and again that its just throwing good money after bad. Are there shops out there that will just clean up the front ring and lap the lugs for $150? Sure, but that's not even remotely comparable to even a basic/entry level custom action. If you already have the action and it has sentimental value and/or it already has some work done to it, then by all means go ahead, but I cant even begin to comprehend going out and buying a factory action to start from scratch on; you are tripping over a dollar to try and pick up a dime here. No amount of autistic shrieking or "wElL AcTchUaLLy" will make this any less true. There are several great options out there in the sub $1000 space that are in the same $ ballpark as a blueprinted Remington once you account for the cost of buying a donor action and are going to be way better out of the box than the Remington ever will be no matter how much machine time you throw at it. Some of these even take shouldered pre-fits so you avoid having a barrel nut and can still install your own barrels saving further time and money. I'm sure I am forgetting others, but a good starting point would be: - Big Horn Origin - Kelbly Atlas - Defiance Tenacity <- this one doesn't take pre-fits I don't think, but lots of places sell complete barreled actions If you want something that's even better and not a lot more expensive then take a look at: - Defiance Ruckus - Big Horn TL3 - Impact 737r/787r Case in point: I had a Bergara B14 re-barreled recently, smith cleaned up the receiver face and lapped the lugs only, $375 or so which included chambering the barrel (based on his price menu probably $100-150 of that went into the work on the action). The rifle shoots great, but compare it to my full custom built on a Stiller Tac-30 (action was $1050) and it isn't close either on fit/finish or accuracy. I purchased the donor rifle for $615, I had to have a bushing installed in the bolt face because I was getting excessive primer cratering (Remingtons have this problem too), so there's $150 or so, then $100-150 for the receiver work, the smith re-used the factory recoil lug so I'm at $0 there. All in I am at $800-850 for a factory action that is not fully blueprinted, factory recoil lug, and doesn't have anything else such as a scope rail, tactical bolt knob, pinned/integral recoil lug etc; things that even the most basic custom actions include. All while being within $200 of the Stiller on my full custom (which comes with a fluted bolt, tactical bolt knob, pinned recoil lug, and a 20MOA scope rail). I'd have been well over $1000 on my Bergara if I made it comparable to the Stiller. It works for the intended purpose of the rifle, but if did it all over again I should honestly have just sold the Bergara for $500 and then drop $900 on something like a Defiance Tenacity or an Origin and been time and money ahead for a higher quality finished rifle. [/QUOTE]
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