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<blockquote data-quote="Long Time Long Ranger" data-source="post: 372048" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>Winmag, no problem, I agree there are tons of choices. I was just throwing one out there that I like to shoot that is a little different. </p><p></p><p>Briar, I use 7mm stw brass, nosler partitions have a low BC taking away the benefits of shooting this high performance 264. It is a custom wildcat cartridge not available in a commercially produced rifle. Like I said none of these are going to beat your 300 wby. The 264 stw is just another fun gun to shoot. I hunted with a guy back in the 70's who used a 6.5-300 wby at long range elk and made some 1/2 mile kills with it. It is basically the same thing as the 264 stw. He and I both built our first 340 wby's about that time and the effects of it on long range elk was devastating compared to the lesser calibers. My go to rifle for elk ever since has been a big 338. I expect his was to untill his death a few years ago. </p><p></p><p>If you are concerned about killing elk and want the best then get a big 338 of your choice. The flattest shooting is the 338-378 wby but they are all right there next to one another. In a custom build right now I would probably do the 338 Norma or the 338 lapua improved because they perform better in a shorter lighter carry rifle plus a few other things. The norma is just a shortenned blown out improved lapua. My 338-378 wby's will shoot a 225 grain nosler nearly 3500 fps with a .555 BC. Or ballistically about the same as the super flat shooting 264 stw except with a 100 grains more bullet and a much larger caliber. Caliber kills, that is why they have caliber minimums for big dangerous game in Africa. If you want the best rifle to flatten elk at long range then get a big 338. Like I said that is the only thing that is going to give you a noticeable performance difference over the 300 wby you already have. </p><p></p><p>Like I said you can buy a rem 700 in 338 ultramag, accurize it and you are good to go at 1/2 mile elk. Or spend a few extra dollars and get the top performing 338-378 wby. The problem with the 338's off the huge 378 case and 416 rigby case is they use major league doses of slow burning powder which need a long barrel to get the fps out of. One of my accuracy loads is 132 grains of powder for instance. The improved lapuas do better in a shorter barrel so that is why I favor those including the 338 norma in a custom build for a light carry rifle. They are a more efficient case design utilizing smaller doses of faster burning powders that retain good velocity in shorter barrels. Good luck with your choice and any of your choices are going to kill elk. I have hunted elk for 35 years and seen who knows how many shot through guiding, friends, etc. If you want the best then get a big 338.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Long Time Long Ranger, post: 372048, member: 505"] Winmag, no problem, I agree there are tons of choices. I was just throwing one out there that I like to shoot that is a little different. Briar, I use 7mm stw brass, nosler partitions have a low BC taking away the benefits of shooting this high performance 264. It is a custom wildcat cartridge not available in a commercially produced rifle. Like I said none of these are going to beat your 300 wby. The 264 stw is just another fun gun to shoot. I hunted with a guy back in the 70's who used a 6.5-300 wby at long range elk and made some 1/2 mile kills with it. It is basically the same thing as the 264 stw. He and I both built our first 340 wby's about that time and the effects of it on long range elk was devastating compared to the lesser calibers. My go to rifle for elk ever since has been a big 338. I expect his was to untill his death a few years ago. If you are concerned about killing elk and want the best then get a big 338 of your choice. The flattest shooting is the 338-378 wby but they are all right there next to one another. In a custom build right now I would probably do the 338 Norma or the 338 lapua improved because they perform better in a shorter lighter carry rifle plus a few other things. The norma is just a shortenned blown out improved lapua. My 338-378 wby's will shoot a 225 grain nosler nearly 3500 fps with a .555 BC. Or ballistically about the same as the super flat shooting 264 stw except with a 100 grains more bullet and a much larger caliber. Caliber kills, that is why they have caliber minimums for big dangerous game in Africa. If you want the best rifle to flatten elk at long range then get a big 338. Like I said that is the only thing that is going to give you a noticeable performance difference over the 300 wby you already have. Like I said you can buy a rem 700 in 338 ultramag, accurize it and you are good to go at 1/2 mile elk. Or spend a few extra dollars and get the top performing 338-378 wby. The problem with the 338's off the huge 378 case and 416 rigby case is they use major league doses of slow burning powder which need a long barrel to get the fps out of. One of my accuracy loads is 132 grains of powder for instance. The improved lapuas do better in a shorter barrel so that is why I favor those including the 338 norma in a custom build for a light carry rifle. They are a more efficient case design utilizing smaller doses of faster burning powders that retain good velocity in shorter barrels. Good luck with your choice and any of your choices are going to kill elk. I have hunted elk for 35 years and seen who knows how many shot through guiding, friends, etc. If you want the best then get a big 338. [/QUOTE]
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