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Rangefinder Field Test: Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guide Vs. Leica CRF 1600 Rangemaster
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<blockquote data-quote="SBruce" data-source="post: 522709" data-attributes="member: 21068"><p><strong>Re: Rangefinder Field Test: Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guide Vs. Leica CRF 1600 Rangemaste</strong></p><p></p><p>+1</p><p> </p><p>I doubt I could see a deer at 1000 yds over the grass/mirage on perfectly flat ground, much less a groundhog. Not without having some elevation or topography/angle difference between myself and them.</p><p> </p><p>I know some guys that are 1000 and 1500 yd club members in the VHA. They did it on my property on prarie dogs. They went out ahead of time and ranged certain spots in the dog town and then drove in wooden surveyors stakes. They recorded the distance to these stakes on a piece of paper for reference later. They did it in a town that had a long slow upslope too. That way they could see all the stakes and had a better idea of how far between each stake the dogs were.</p><p> </p><p>I know on perfectly flat ground, the Leica 1600 or 1200 start having trouble with prarie dogs way closer than 1000 yds........sure, we can get a dark patch of grass or a small sagebrush or even maybe the mound they're standing on out quite a ways, but the dog itself is very hard to range.</p><p> </p><p>Even with the small beam divergence of the Leica or the Vectronix, IMO it's not small enough to ensure we're getting the <u>actual dog</u> and not some grass behind or in front of the dog. Heck, last fall we were shooting a friends Edge at 700 to 950 yds on cardboard. The cardboard was about 2' wide X 3' tall. At the 700 yd mark, the cardboard was at an angle, so we would sometimes get the dirt berm behind the cardboard instead of the board itself. Swarovski, Leica, it didn't matter which; both would occasionally give a 5 yd further reading due to the board not reflecting enough back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SBruce, post: 522709, member: 21068"] [b]Re: Rangefinder Field Test: Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guide Vs. Leica CRF 1600 Rangemaste[/b] +1 I doubt I could see a deer at 1000 yds over the grass/mirage on perfectly flat ground, much less a groundhog. Not without having some elevation or topography/angle difference between myself and them. I know some guys that are 1000 and 1500 yd club members in the VHA. They did it on my property on prarie dogs. They went out ahead of time and ranged certain spots in the dog town and then drove in wooden surveyors stakes. They recorded the distance to these stakes on a piece of paper for reference later. They did it in a town that had a long slow upslope too. That way they could see all the stakes and had a better idea of how far between each stake the dogs were. I know on perfectly flat ground, the Leica 1600 or 1200 start having trouble with prarie dogs way closer than 1000 yds........sure, we can get a dark patch of grass or a small sagebrush or even maybe the mound they're standing on out quite a ways, but the dog itself is very hard to range. Even with the small beam divergence of the Leica or the Vectronix, IMO it's not small enough to ensure we're getting the [U]actual dog[/U] and not some grass behind or in front of the dog. Heck, last fall we were shooting a friends Edge at 700 to 950 yds on cardboard. The cardboard was about 2' wide X 3' tall. At the 700 yd mark, the cardboard was at an angle, so we would sometimes get the dirt berm behind the cardboard instead of the board itself. Swarovski, Leica, it didn't matter which; both would occasionally give a 5 yd further reading due to the board not reflecting enough back. [/QUOTE]
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