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<blockquote data-quote="catorres1" data-source="post: 1380914" data-attributes="member: 80699"><p>Yeah, I am very inexperienced in calling the wind. My longest shots were all made with someone who knows telling what to call for wind. One camp I read says the most important measurement for wind is where you are because that wind has the most time to effect your bullet in flight. Another camp I read says the most important wind is where the target is, and those folks don't care much for wind meters. Honestly, I don't have enough experience to say which is right.</p><p></p><p>I will say that if you want to have a wind meter and take it's reading and have that considered in your dope, I think the Kestrel is for sure the best solution. The 2400 requires you use your mobile phone, which I personally dislike, and stick the wind impeller into the phone to get a reading which then goes to the 2400 etc. Comparatively, that's a slow solution at best, and is fiddly as well as not robust if you are moving around hunting etc. But I gather that this appeals to guys who just get a one time basic reading and then make a call based on their experience and what they see when taking the shot. </p><p></p><p>As to whether to rely on the wind meter reading and use it for your dope, or whether to rely on mirage and other factors to make your own judgement...I am not qualified to say which is better.</p><p></p><p>But I do think that if you want to have wind readings from your meter input into your dope, then I think the Kestrel/RF solution is definitely better. I have already hunted with it a bit and practiced to see what works, and for what what it does, it's fast, efficient and robust. I have left it turned on the whole day we were hunting on at least two occasions, and have spent a bunch of time playing with it...and the battery is still at 100%. The thing sips energy, my phone won't even come close.</p><p></p><p>The reason I mention this re the OP's question...maybe what would help you make a choice is consider how you like to handle wind...that decision might narrow your choice a bit. </p><p></p><p>I often make a matrix of what is important to me and then chart out how the choices fill those needs....I am visual...so it helps me 'see' the best solution. When it comes to ranging, the Sig's and Leicas will both range very far very reliably in my experience. Other brands may also meet your needs. But it comes down to some personal needs/desires to separate them. For example, my eyes are not what they usto be, so that clear Leica glass is awesome for me to use it as a very convenient observation device before grabbing the binos. Most don't do that so they could care less...but it's a factor for me...not the only one...but it has value. Maybe consider how far you want to shoot, how far you want to range (longer than maybe you want to shoot to give you an idea of how far waypoints are or whatever) what you want in an RF for wind, etc. Then see what comes out on top.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="catorres1, post: 1380914, member: 80699"] Yeah, I am very inexperienced in calling the wind. My longest shots were all made with someone who knows telling what to call for wind. One camp I read says the most important measurement for wind is where you are because that wind has the most time to effect your bullet in flight. Another camp I read says the most important wind is where the target is, and those folks don't care much for wind meters. Honestly, I don't have enough experience to say which is right. I will say that if you want to have a wind meter and take it's reading and have that considered in your dope, I think the Kestrel is for sure the best solution. The 2400 requires you use your mobile phone, which I personally dislike, and stick the wind impeller into the phone to get a reading which then goes to the 2400 etc. Comparatively, that's a slow solution at best, and is fiddly as well as not robust if you are moving around hunting etc. But I gather that this appeals to guys who just get a one time basic reading and then make a call based on their experience and what they see when taking the shot. As to whether to rely on the wind meter reading and use it for your dope, or whether to rely on mirage and other factors to make your own judgement...I am not qualified to say which is better. But I do think that if you want to have wind readings from your meter input into your dope, then I think the Kestrel/RF solution is definitely better. I have already hunted with it a bit and practiced to see what works, and for what what it does, it's fast, efficient and robust. I have left it turned on the whole day we were hunting on at least two occasions, and have spent a bunch of time playing with it...and the battery is still at 100%. The thing sips energy, my phone won't even come close. The reason I mention this re the OP's question...maybe what would help you make a choice is consider how you like to handle wind...that decision might narrow your choice a bit. I often make a matrix of what is important to me and then chart out how the choices fill those needs....I am visual...so it helps me 'see' the best solution. When it comes to ranging, the Sig's and Leicas will both range very far very reliably in my experience. Other brands may also meet your needs. But it comes down to some personal needs/desires to separate them. For example, my eyes are not what they usto be, so that clear Leica glass is awesome for me to use it as a very convenient observation device before grabbing the binos. Most don't do that so they could care less...but it's a factor for me...not the only one...but it has value. Maybe consider how far you want to shoot, how far you want to range (longer than maybe you want to shoot to give you an idea of how far waypoints are or whatever) what you want in an RF for wind, etc. Then see what comes out on top. [/QUOTE]
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