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<blockquote data-quote="ltrmc02" data-source="post: 1515316" data-attributes="member: 39103"><p>I definitely love the Remington 700, currently have three of them and have owned many others that I now wish I had never sold. Other than the sorry trigger on the first gen Vanguard I think I like it about as good as the 700. I'm just trying to talk myself into another rifle that I really don't need but I hate to see a decent stock sitting on a loaner rifle that I'm not shooting. I'd probably do a little 100 to 400 yard water filled can plinking with a .223 if it'll bed into that stock nicely and hold a decent group.</p><p></p><p>I noticed that the Rem 700 linked there has a 1:9.5 twist vs most of the other bolt guns I've seen in .223 having a 1:9, wonder why Remington chose the slower twist? Wish they were all putting 1:8 twists on them but I'll probably stay in the mid range bullet weight so anything from a 1:7 to 1:12 would work for what I'll likely shoot most of the time. </p><p></p><p>I do know that a 1:12 in a .22-250 with a 75gr pill doesn't come close to working. Before I started reloading a friend of mine loaded a few 75gr for me to try out. I didn't know much about twist rates at the time but my .22-250 would print near 1/4MOA groups with 50gr or 55gr V-max factory loads and I missed a sheet of note book paper at 100yards with the first 75gr load fired. I shot a second time and saw dirt fly about half way to the target, both my muzzle and the target about 3ft above the ground. That bullet had to have started tumbling right out of the muzzle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ltrmc02, post: 1515316, member: 39103"] I definitely love the Remington 700, currently have three of them and have owned many others that I now wish I had never sold. Other than the sorry trigger on the first gen Vanguard I think I like it about as good as the 700. I'm just trying to talk myself into another rifle that I really don't need but I hate to see a decent stock sitting on a loaner rifle that I'm not shooting. I'd probably do a little 100 to 400 yard water filled can plinking with a .223 if it'll bed into that stock nicely and hold a decent group. I noticed that the Rem 700 linked there has a 1:9.5 twist vs most of the other bolt guns I've seen in .223 having a 1:9, wonder why Remington chose the slower twist? Wish they were all putting 1:8 twists on them but I'll probably stay in the mid range bullet weight so anything from a 1:7 to 1:12 would work for what I'll likely shoot most of the time. I do know that a 1:12 in a .22-250 with a 75gr pill doesn't come close to working. Before I started reloading a friend of mine loaded a few 75gr for me to try out. I didn't know much about twist rates at the time but my .22-250 would print near 1/4MOA groups with 50gr or 55gr V-max factory loads and I missed a sheet of note book paper at 100yards with the first 75gr load fired. I shot a second time and saw dirt fly about half way to the target, both my muzzle and the target about 3ft above the ground. That bullet had to have started tumbling right out of the muzzle. [/QUOTE]
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