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<blockquote data-quote=".280Rem" data-source="post: 206065" data-attributes="member: 11140"><p>I had to go back over this again. I don't appreciate the condescending tone. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I can't find where it says that anywhere on the Hodgdon Website, but would love it if you'd point that out to me. It does say, as all load data warnings do, "NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS". And to further show that they are "maximum loads". The "max load" data in say for instance the .270Win runs arond 60K-63.5K psi. SAAMI max is 65K psi. Most all modern data that I read gives a little cushion, usually around 2K-3K psi from the very max pressure. These are, for all intents and purposes, max pressure loads. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Yeah, I got the picture! I don't at all think any of my posts said anything to the contrary. However, I'd suggest your 15% mark for hotter primers is too hard a number. It could be more or less. In fact, many think that Winchester Large Rifle Primers are about as hot as other Magnum Primers. When I tried CCI Mag primers with a load I'd used WLR's with, the velocity changed very little. Pressure may have changed some, but not enough to notice any signs or velocity changes. But, that may be because WLR's are very hot anyway. I agree that changing the primer, next to changing powder can have a large effect on pressure. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I do grasp the variables. You just don't agree with the way I load I guess. I have plenty of experience. A little over 20 years of loading and shooting. More if you count my time spent watching and learning from my father. Maybe not as much as you or some, maybe more, I don't know. If you'll talk to some in the gun and gun writing biz, you'll see that my approach to loading, velocity, and pressure, is a sound approach to safe loading. </p><p> </p><p>And finally, I want to say, that I'm not suggesting that <strong>you </strong>do it <strong>my way. </strong>Im simply laying out how I approach loading. It works for me. </p><p> </p><p>Best, </p><p> </p><p>.280Rem</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE=".280Rem, post: 206065, member: 11140"] I had to go back over this again. I don't appreciate the condescending tone. I can't find where it says that anywhere on the Hodgdon Website, but would love it if you'd point that out to me. It does say, as all load data warnings do, "NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS". And to further show that they are "maximum loads". The "max load" data in say for instance the .270Win runs arond 60K-63.5K psi. SAAMI max is 65K psi. Most all modern data that I read gives a little cushion, usually around 2K-3K psi from the very max pressure. These are, for all intents and purposes, max pressure loads. Yeah, I got the picture! I don't at all think any of my posts said anything to the contrary. However, I'd suggest your 15% mark for hotter primers is too hard a number. It could be more or less. In fact, many think that Winchester Large Rifle Primers are about as hot as other Magnum Primers. When I tried CCI Mag primers with a load I'd used WLR's with, the velocity changed very little. Pressure may have changed some, but not enough to notice any signs or velocity changes. But, that may be because WLR's are very hot anyway. I agree that changing the primer, next to changing powder can have a large effect on pressure. I do grasp the variables. You just don't agree with the way I load I guess. I have plenty of experience. A little over 20 years of loading and shooting. More if you count my time spent watching and learning from my father. Maybe not as much as you or some, maybe more, I don't know. If you'll talk to some in the gun and gun writing biz, you'll see that my approach to loading, velocity, and pressure, is a sound approach to safe loading. And finally, I want to say, that I'm not suggesting that [B]you [/B]do it [B]my way. [/B]Im simply laying out how I approach loading. It works for me. Best, .280Rem [/QUOTE]
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