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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 115374" data-source="post: 1972022"><p>Sorry, I should have been more specific in describing artificial feeding. Someone had mentioned the feedgrounds at Jackson Hole and others. I think there is a difference here. I am very familiar with the feedground at Jackson Hole- my great uncle was the first manager of the feedground, he was a game warden in Jackson until one bad winter came along. before he passed away he told me that winter where the Refuge is now he could walk across the width of the refuge and not put a foot on the ground due to the fact he was walking on dead elk. At that time the Wyoming Game and Fish Dept. decided to feed the Elk during the winter when necessary. They started with hay on horse drawn sleighs and I was fortunate enough to ride along and kick hay off to the elk. My great uncle was asked to take on the task of managing the refuge and he accepted, my grandfather took over the position of game warden. I can recall multiple packs of coyotes numbering 20 or more to a pack on the fringes of the refuge herd and I have home movies of my parents that show this. This was in the early 60s when I was 6-7 yrs old. They have since gone to pellets vs/loose hay. The point I was trying to make re: trophy buck is this: The pellets/hay fed at the feedgrounds is NOT antler growth accelerating feed. It is just natural grown alfalfa/grass with no growth additives to enhance horn growth. It is put into pellet form for economic and ease of feeding reasons is my understanding. Those elk and the great majority of all feedground elk still have to survive hunting season before they get to the refuge, evade predators year round including their time on the refuge which now include more Grizzlies,Wolves,coyotes and Black Bears. These are free ranging elk that still use their migratory routes from the high country to the Refuge. I seriously doubt that the buck in question raised in a controlled environment, fed antler growth enhancing pellets with some serious predator control to keep him alive can be considered a free ranging,fair chase trophy. I am not disputing that he is a nice buck, just saying there is a difference. Take a look at the deer that migrate out of the backcountry in Wyoming 60+miles to the red desert to winter or the deer that migrate out of the Bob Marshall Wilderness on the East Front or the deer that migrate out of the Absorakee Wilderness Area in Wyoming and Montana with no food or water supplements and have to evade all of the predators mentioned above. No Sir! that Texas buck cant hold a candle to a true free ranging mule deer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 115374, post: 1972022"] Sorry, I should have been more specific in describing artificial feeding. Someone had mentioned the feedgrounds at Jackson Hole and others. I think there is a difference here. I am very familiar with the feedground at Jackson Hole- my great uncle was the first manager of the feedground, he was a game warden in Jackson until one bad winter came along. before he passed away he told me that winter where the Refuge is now he could walk across the width of the refuge and not put a foot on the ground due to the fact he was walking on dead elk. At that time the Wyoming Game and Fish Dept. decided to feed the Elk during the winter when necessary. They started with hay on horse drawn sleighs and I was fortunate enough to ride along and kick hay off to the elk. My great uncle was asked to take on the task of managing the refuge and he accepted, my grandfather took over the position of game warden. I can recall multiple packs of coyotes numbering 20 or more to a pack on the fringes of the refuge herd and I have home movies of my parents that show this. This was in the early 60s when I was 6-7 yrs old. They have since gone to pellets vs/loose hay. The point I was trying to make re: trophy buck is this: The pellets/hay fed at the feedgrounds is NOT antler growth accelerating feed. It is just natural grown alfalfa/grass with no growth additives to enhance horn growth. It is put into pellet form for economic and ease of feeding reasons is my understanding. Those elk and the great majority of all feedground elk still have to survive hunting season before they get to the refuge, evade predators year round including their time on the refuge which now include more Grizzlies,Wolves,coyotes and Black Bears. These are free ranging elk that still use their migratory routes from the high country to the Refuge. I seriously doubt that the buck in question raised in a controlled environment, fed antler growth enhancing pellets with some serious predator control to keep him alive can be considered a free ranging,fair chase trophy. I am not disputing that he is a nice buck, just saying there is a difference. Take a look at the deer that migrate out of the backcountry in Wyoming 60+miles to the red desert to winter or the deer that migrate out of the Bob Marshall Wilderness on the East Front or the deer that migrate out of the Absorakee Wilderness Area in Wyoming and Montana with no food or water supplements and have to evade all of the predators mentioned above. No Sir! that Texas buck cant hold a candle to a true free ranging mule deer. [/QUOTE]
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