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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 836283" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>I agree that the 22 cals are extremely popular and no doubt are the highest volume sellers. That said, Peter has said he is interested in offering bullets suitable for long range hunting. I just don't see a viable market in the 22 cals for LR hunting. Using myself as an example, I plan to (and do) shoot 53 gr Vmax out of my 223 and rebarrel the 22-250 for something like the 80 gr VLD. Both these rifles will be used for recreational shooting and gophers, Pd's, coyotes, etc. I simply would not be interested in a 22 cal "hunting" bullet for let's say antelope and deer. I have a 6mm and a 6.5 mm for that. my guess is that the vast majority of 22 cal shooters are very much the same. I would guess that 80-90% of 22 cal bullets shot are for recreational shooting and the AR's eat up the majority of those.</p><p></p><p>So....if Peter wants a share of that market, he's going to have to compete with the existing offerings at their price level. If he can do that, fine. It seems to me that market is probably very competitive with myriads of existing offerings and it would be extremely difficult for a new guy to break in to it.</p><p></p><p>I could be wrong, but I think his best chance is to fill the existing holes in the popular cals and twists with a new offering that meets the user requirements I outlined in a previous post. A long range hunting bullet that does it all. Good terminal performance at short, mid and long ranges with the highest BCs possible.</p><p></p><p>just my two pennys....</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 836283, member: 11717"] I agree that the 22 cals are extremely popular and no doubt are the highest volume sellers. That said, Peter has said he is interested in offering bullets suitable for long range hunting. I just don't see a viable market in the 22 cals for LR hunting. Using myself as an example, I plan to (and do) shoot 53 gr Vmax out of my 223 and rebarrel the 22-250 for something like the 80 gr VLD. Both these rifles will be used for recreational shooting and gophers, Pd's, coyotes, etc. I simply would not be interested in a 22 cal "hunting" bullet for let's say antelope and deer. I have a 6mm and a 6.5 mm for that. my guess is that the vast majority of 22 cal shooters are very much the same. I would guess that 80-90% of 22 cal bullets shot are for recreational shooting and the AR's eat up the majority of those. So....if Peter wants a share of that market, he's going to have to compete with the existing offerings at their price level. If he can do that, fine. It seems to me that market is probably very competitive with myriads of existing offerings and it would be extremely difficult for a new guy to break in to it. I could be wrong, but I think his best chance is to fill the existing holes in the popular cals and twists with a new offering that meets the user requirements I outlined in a previous post. A long range hunting bullet that does it all. Good terminal performance at short, mid and long ranges with the highest BCs possible. just my two pennys.... :) [/QUOTE]
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