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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 847003" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>Rich,</p><p></p><p>If I was going to pick a tipped bullet for hunting it would be like yours. Metal is better than poly and brass is better than aluminum. I've still got a few of yours to send down the pipe as soon as I get the RUM back from nitriding. They are good looking bullets <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> It's true that pointy meplats have a better BC than HP's but when you reach a certain meplat diameter there is very little gain in BC by going to a pointed tip, and Bergers are close to that. </p><p></p><p>Now I don't have enough personal experience with the various types of bullet at various ranges to make a solid knowledge judgment. So I have to rely mostly on the collective experience of all you guys and others and others and the bullet makers themselves (who are definitely going to try to market their brand) </p><p></p><p>Gerard Schultz (GS Custom) said once in one of these bullet threads that tips do not facilitate expansion as they are actually an obstruction and that the HP design is the best for reliable expansion. Well that statement isn't completely accurate IMO, but there is some truth to it. Every now and then a tipped bullet fails to expand. And if you have an adequate opening in the meplat, there is no better mechanism to facilitate expansion. If you look at the GS bullets they have a slightly to significantly larger HP than Bergers or CEB's. You will not likely hear of one failing to expand and if you do it will almost certainly not be the bullets fault. The question is how small can you make that opening for better BC and still get reliable expansion? It seems to me the Bergers have got that nailed down pretty good based on overall performance which from what I can tell exceeds 95%, and that could probably be improved if the bullets were properly inspected prior to hunting with them.</p><p></p><p>Bottom line for me is HP's are the way to go, not that they are vastly superior to tipped bullets, especially ones like yours, but I do believe they are the best overall option. But even if I decided I liked tipped bullets better, it would do me no good until you start mass producing them <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll Eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> So till then, I'm drinking the HP kool-aid <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 847003, member: 11717"] Rich, If I was going to pick a tipped bullet for hunting it would be like yours. Metal is better than poly and brass is better than aluminum. I've still got a few of yours to send down the pipe as soon as I get the RUM back from nitriding. They are good looking bullets :) It's true that pointy meplats have a better BC than HP's but when you reach a certain meplat diameter there is very little gain in BC by going to a pointed tip, and Bergers are close to that. Now I don't have enough personal experience with the various types of bullet at various ranges to make a solid knowledge judgment. So I have to rely mostly on the collective experience of all you guys and others and others and the bullet makers themselves (who are definitely going to try to market their brand) Gerard Schultz (GS Custom) said once in one of these bullet threads that tips do not facilitate expansion as they are actually an obstruction and that the HP design is the best for reliable expansion. Well that statement isn't completely accurate IMO, but there is some truth to it. Every now and then a tipped bullet fails to expand. And if you have an adequate opening in the meplat, there is no better mechanism to facilitate expansion. If you look at the GS bullets they have a slightly to significantly larger HP than Bergers or CEB's. You will not likely hear of one failing to expand and if you do it will almost certainly not be the bullets fault. The question is how small can you make that opening for better BC and still get reliable expansion? It seems to me the Bergers have got that nailed down pretty good based on overall performance which from what I can tell exceeds 95%, and that could probably be improved if the bullets were properly inspected prior to hunting with them. Bottom line for me is HP's are the way to go, not that they are vastly superior to tipped bullets, especially ones like yours, but I do believe they are the best overall option. But even if I decided I liked tipped bullets better, it would do me no good until you start mass producing them :rolleyes::cool::) So till then, I'm drinking the HP kool-aid :D [/QUOTE]
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